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US Covid-19 deaths overcounted by nearly a third – New York Times
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Posted on 07/18/2023 6:20:53 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook

The newspaper has long defended the official pandemic statistics, even suggesting the death count was low Art installation in White Bear Lake, Minnesota in memory of people who died of Covid-19

Nearly a third of US deaths ascribed to Covid-19 were actually caused by something else, the New York Times admitted on Monday, citing data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“The official number [of Covid-19 deaths] is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had [the] virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death,” the Times article read, explaining that both CDC data and a study in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases support the claim that “almost one third of official recent Covid deaths have fallen into this category.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid; deaths
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1 posted on 07/18/2023 6:20:53 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

The conspiracy untangles.


2 posted on 07/18/2023 6:23:03 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Sorry for the “Art installation in White Bear Lake, Minnesota in memory of people who died of Covid-19 “ typo, that was part of an image caption in the article


3 posted on 07/18/2023 6:23:20 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

There must be bodies everywhere.


4 posted on 07/18/2023 6:23:35 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

If 1/3 of the “COVID” deaths weren’t caused by COVID, the actual number was overstated by 50% (not by a third).


5 posted on 07/18/2023 6:27:32 PM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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To: BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan

“If 1/3 of the “COVID” deaths weren’t caused by COVID, the actual number was overstated by 50% (not by a third).”

I am ignorant of the rational you are using to come up with that statement.


6 posted on 07/18/2023 6:29:16 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

If the commies at the NYT are admitting to 1/3, extrapolate that into the real numbers. 1/2? or more?


7 posted on 07/18/2023 6:29:21 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

It’s not a crisis, unless you exaggerate the numbers.

Same with climate change, where the numbers would not look good for democrats unless they exaggerated about that crisis too.


8 posted on 07/18/2023 6:30:10 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

RFK Jr claims covid virus spared Chinese.

China 14,649 deaths - Statista - COVID-19 deaths worldwide per one million population as of July 13, 2022 by country -
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/:

also note: Chinese did not get mRNA jabs.

23 March 2023: CNN: China approves its first mRNA Covid-19 vaccine
By Juliana Liu
Until now, China has approved only inactivated vaccines made by Sinovac Biotech and Sinopharm Group, two Beijing-based drugmakers.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/23/tech/china-covid-mrna-vaccine-hnk-intl/index.html

after RFK Jr makes the claim, UK’s Financial Times conveniently gets this story which, apparently, gives a figure of 99,000 deaths for first quarter of 2022 alone, and then potentially ups it further with this momentary publishing of cremations from Zhejiang (which accounts for 5% of China’s population)!

18 July updated 19 July: Daily Mail: China deletes Covid mortality data after citizens discover huge surge in deaths in one region after lockdown rules were axed
Zhejiang province cremations were up 73 per cent in the first quarter of the year
By ELENA SALVONI
Chinese officials have deleted Covid mortality data after it showed deaths had soared in a wealthy area following the government’s sudden relaxation of strict Covid lockdown rules, according to reports.

The number of cremations reported in the coastal Zhejiang province reportedly jumped by 73 per cent in the first quarter of 2023 from a year earlier.

The number recorded, 171,000, was well up from the 99,000 and 91,000 deaths reported in the same period in 2022 and 2021, the FT reports...

Epidemiologists Colin Butler and Delia Randolph said in January that they believe a laboratory leak was the most likely cause of Covid-19.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12310417/China-deletes-Covid-mortality-data-citizens-discover-huge-surge-deaths-one-region-lockdown-rules-axed.html

first 2min40sec: China/covid segment is top item. BBC keeps the numbers vague, could be deaths from “temperatures” aka “climate change”!

AUDIO: 23m: 18 July: BBC Newsroom
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z2tf6xdn04z

what if China simply (as alleged by Financial Times) posted the so-called cremation figures to give the impression the virus wasn’t designed to spare China!


9 posted on 07/18/2023 6:32:03 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: traderrob6

It’s the difference between gross and net.

1/3 of 9 is 3. If 6 die, but 9 is claimed then the difference of 3 is 50% of the actual 6 who died. But it is also 33% of the 9 that were claimed.


10 posted on 07/18/2023 6:32:52 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

So those in charge Announce that there was a 30% mistake. Did they also calculate the level of mistake and how are we sure it was only 30%?


11 posted on 07/18/2023 6:35:45 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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The only count they were interested in was OUT . . . for the best President we've EVER had . . . including Reagan . . . Trump wins over Reagan, imo.

COVID was invented and utilized SPECIFICALLY to get a legal mass mail in ballot that could and WOULD be scammed and when discovered, obfuscated until it dwindled away ala brain damaged democrats.

12 posted on 07/18/2023 6:36:21 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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Yup. As many have long suspected, the Medical Industrial Complex, and their paid-for lackeys in the media, just counted flu cases and other diseases as COVID. Easy peasy.

However, as the truth of their part in the “Get Orange Man Outta There and Put Us In!” Leftist treason slowly unveils itself — along with sundry other parts of the multi-tentacled operation — the COVID collaborators might want to be upping their dosages of “happy pills,” and calling their attorneys for a little chat.


13 posted on 07/18/2023 6:37:26 PM PDT by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

The Science. Yeah, right.


14 posted on 07/18/2023 6:45:04 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: traderrob6

“I am ignorant of the rationale you are using to come up with that statement.”

If CDC stated that 100 people died from COVID but 1/3 of those really died from something else, then the true number of COVID deaths is 66 not 100... and 100 is 50% more than 66.


15 posted on 07/18/2023 6:49:26 PM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Didn’t realize you’d already explained the math.


16 posted on 07/18/2023 6:52:07 PM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Gee, I was expecting a link to the NYT article to see what it really says. Instead, the link goes to some questionable Russian website that claims that the NYT said something but does not contain information that would help one find the article in question.

Around 2.8 to 2.9 million people died per year prior to Covid. In 2020, the first year of the pandemic, the number of deaths jumped by 18%, to 3,383,729. Out of those extra 528,891 deaths, 350,831 were caused by Covid. In 2021, the second year of the pandemic, total deaths jumped by 21% or 603,859 over 2019 numbers, with 415,399 of those being Covid deaths. The reason there are more excess deaths than accounted for by Covid alone is that people were not able to get medical care for their heart disease, accidents, strokes, etc., because medical resources were diverted to caring for Covid patients.

If those huge jumps in the number of people who died weren’t caused by Covid, then what in the world was killing off so many extra people in 2020 and 2021? Did heart disease, strokes, accidents, etc., suddenly become especially deadly in 2020 and 2021?


17 posted on 07/18/2023 6:52:27 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Puns make me numb
But math puns
make me number
18 posted on 07/18/2023 7:02:11 PM PDT by BipolarBob (My friend David got his ID stolen, so now he's just Dav.)
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To: BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan
“If 1/3 of the “COVID” deaths weren’t caused by COVID, the actual number was overstated by 50% (not by a third).”

And I’d bet that the overcounting was far worse than that. I’d guess it was more like 1 in 10 alleged “COVID” deaths had anything to do with “COVID”, if there even is such a virus (as in, it wasn’t/isn’t just the flu rebranded).

The single greatest fraud, greatest collective insanity, and greatest crime against humanity, all rolled into one.

19 posted on 07/18/2023 7:11:11 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Many died from the treatments like remdesivir.


20 posted on 07/18/2023 7:13:56 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it.........)
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