Don't tell Steve McQueen.
Posted on 07/18/2023 7:55:36 AM PDT by NohSpinZone
Drivers may soon get speeding tickets without ever talking to an officer, if a bill gets approved authorizing speed limit cameras.
The program would give speeding drivers a ticket by using speed cameras and an automatic billing system, according to Assembly Bill 645. "The speed safety system shall capture images of the rear license plate of vehicles that are traveling 11 miles per hour or more over the posted speed limit and notices of violation shall only be issued to vehicles based on that evidence," the bill states. Fines would start at $50 for going 11 mph over the posted speed limit and increase from there.
The new pilot speed camera program would be implemented as soon as January 2024 in several major cities, including San Jose, Oakland, Glendale, Los Angeles, Long Beach and the city and county of San Francisco. The bill was introduced by Assemblymember Laura Friedman of Glendale, according to the bill text.
The pilot program would be in place for five years, until January 2032, and will be reassessed for the entire state if it’s successful, Kerri West, a spokesperson for Friedman’s office, told the Sacramento Bee.
The bill would require cities and counties participating in the program to send drivers warnings, rather than tickets, for the first 60 days of the program, according to the bill text. It would also require these cities to make records confidential, and specify that the speeding violation is subject to civil penalties, among other requirements.
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Don't tell Steve McQueen.
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The Chinese model of social control. People behaving themselves not because it’s the ethical or right thing to do, but because there are government electronic eyeballs everywhere watching your every move. A giant prison rec yard.
Even bigger issue..
An illegal. That does not have a valid license, and in many cases, is not insured.
Are they essentially exempt from the laws? Will they be locked up for fines? Or, will they just be forgiven the debts and let go on their way?
In MANY cases, unlicensed illegals are basically, stopped and then let go with out any fines, citations etc.. As the police know there is nothing they can do about it.
West told Sacramento Bee that three amendments needed to be added in order to pass the bill, which include clarifying the angle of the camera, how long records of penalties will be retained and how many occurrences of street racing would enable the installation of a camera.
The last part suggests that these cameras would only be set up in locations where there is a history of street racing (which has become a big problem in many cities in California). Up until then in the article, it made it seem like these cameras would be set up everywhere in the state. Great journalism by the left, once again.
Is there any kind of legal standard for timing of yellow lights? Probably state by state but the DOT may have some say as well.
I thought there have been a few cases of notorious speed trap towns in the Deep South being slapped down for targeting tourists passing through....
prolly weren’t 11 mph over the limit in that video
I do make an exception for automated enforcement under special circumstances — like in construction zones, for example. The elevated risks make enforcement more urgent, and altered/temporary road conditions make conventional enforcement impractical.
I GUARANTEE these programs are administered by a 3rd party company who takes a huge cut off the top of the “fines”.
I wonder which relatives of what politicians own the company?
“The last part suggests that these cameras would only be set up in locations where there is a history of street racing (which has become a big problem in many cities in California). Up until then in the article, it made it seem like these cameras would be set up everywhere in the state. Great journalism by the left, once again.”
And.. as a Warm up act.
They are going to have a shoot out the cameras event
After my last trip to California, I rather decided speed limits were a joke there so their wall to wall traffic at 65 doesn’t bother me.
I grew up in and learned how to drive in southern California.
My rule is to keep up with traffic regardless of the speed limit.
In 2020 I went through Sacramento and Stockton on I-5. I don’t think I was below 70 to 80 MPH much of the time.
Speed limit was 55. Even in construction zones.
MY rule is to drive at what I feel is safe for conditions,
typically I exceed, on open roads about 9 MPH or more over the limit.
School zones and places where there a lot of kids and pedestrians, I go 5 MPH under the limit.
Most speed limits are really recommendations for junkers with bad tires or to enhance local city coffers.
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My circuits gleam
I am perpetual
I keep the country clean
-Judas Priest
“Arent there due process and other legal issues with this? “
Yes. But as I remember from years ago it was more to do how it was processed.
OK if like a parking ticket - no points on record.
Yellow light intervals are established under engineering standards, not legal standards. The yellow interval is a function of the posted speed of the roadway, the location of the stop bar on the pavement relative to the signal heads, and the sight distance for motorists approaching the light.
Used to drive in Bay Area now driving in San Antonio area. Seems like same number of weaving knuckleheads in both places...just more likely here that the knucklehead is in a pickup truck rather than a Mercedes or Volvo.
In its latest iteration, Assembly Bill 645 would establish a five-year pilot program in six cities — San Jose, Oakland, Los Angeles, Glendale, Long Beach and San Francisco — to allow speed cameras on select corridors:
- School zones
- City streets with the highest incidences of fatal and severe injury crashes, designated as “safety corridors”
- Streets with a history of races and side shows
How long before the cameras start getting “necklaced,” like they do in the U.K.?
—”The a-holes who drive 100+, endangering lives”
Living not far enough away from Chigongo, perhaps a US leader for that group. (DETROIT?)
A friend that traversed Chigongo every day said, “You need to leave enough room on all sides for one of the locals to do a figure eight.”
One fine day off hours, light traffic, he was massively tee-boned on the Dan Ryan, no ramp, no nothing but a high embankment on the side of the expressway.
At the top of the embankment is cheek-by-jowl residential housing.
Traveling at a high rate of speed, a local forgot about the expressway and blasted through the fence and center-punched my bud.
He soon found employment closer to home.
My car had never even been in SoCal, and fighting the ticket was a pain. I won, eventually, but they did not make it easy.
One issue, thus, is having to prove one's innocence in disputed citations.
Move.
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