Posted on 07/11/2023 11:35:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
When the FBI goes the problems that lead to the formation of the FBI will reemerge - that of corrupt local law enforcement as well as inadequate training and equipment. Two things that led to the formation of the FBI. There were others but these two were prominent.
1. Local inability to stop what then was called the “White Slave Trade (human trafficking). The Mann Act was passed create a federal responsibility in stopping it. The National Bureau of Criminal Identification (NCBI) - originally a Pinkerton created organization & later Bureau of Investigation (early form of the FBI) were tasked to aid in fighting this crime. Since they were originally involved in supporting the “regulation of commerce” it seemed they already had the intrastate “skills” to do the job.
If you are concerned about child abductions. The Mann Act was created & passed to fight a similar problem.
2. Osage Murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osage_Indian_murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killers_of_the_Flower_Moon
The incident below is post-FBI formation but it shows the existence and the power of corruption at the local level.
3. Battle of Athens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
Before we wax too nostalgic about this, read the link!
It essentially failed! Things soon after the “Battle” evolved back to the corrupt local ways.
Anyone who thinks our local and state governments are pristine pure needs to step back and think! Even if your local LEO departments are currently “honest” there is no guarantee they will remain so. Salaries in these state\local organization are traditionally low and always will be. This makes them vulnerable to bribery, etc. from criminal organizations and to be influenced by local “politics”. There is always going to be a need for someone or something who has no stake in local “interests” who can be the impartial LEO of last resort. The problem is keeping them “impartial”.
PS
Look how corrupt the urban centers are in regard to elections and now the simple enforcement of the law! The tools to correct it are there what’s lacking is the local & state will. Also, I admit there’s been a lack of federal will here. However, since they are the LEO of last resort its their job!
HA, that’s a good one. Did you not hear the admission by the CIA of killing JFK?
LAPD and NYPD have no authority in other states. Clearly there are crimes that involve the entire nation; terrorism, human trafficing, threats to the currency etc. There is still need for reform, but federal issues need to be addressed where locals cannot.
“No holding, purchasing or training on weapons of any kind for the FBI.”
Are you kidding? Arrest a terror group with slingshots.
There needs to be uniform responses and communication, not stepping all over everyones toes. This does not mean reform is not needed, but don’t throw out the baby with the bath water.
mebbe we no longer need an FBI?
We have 50 states after all.. Fed.gov is becoming more redundant with every passing year at this point..
You seem to have missed my point, but anyway, enjoy life under America's KGB
The FBI labs are the finest in thw world. Reform yes, wholesale disbanding no. Scrape the scum off the top and throw roadblocks in fromt of the misuse.
Correct. A federal crime lab that also coordinates certain members of each state's police or investigative bureau who are designated as having cross border investigative and arrest powers.
“Anyone who thinks our local and state governments are pristine pure needs to step back and think!”
Some here would prefer Jackie Gleason to investigate and prosecute federal drug traffic crimes and international children porn.
However, the NKVD (1922-1946) and the KGB (1954-1991) are the only two which were famous enough to remember.
The FBI labs are the finest in the world.
They can’t be duplicated. They can’t be restarted.
Have you ever hear of the FBI crime lab scandal?
2015…. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/csi-is-a-lie/390897/
“Nearly every examiner in an elite FBI forensic unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000,” the newspaper reported, adding that “the cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death.”
But it’s the Atlantic….
So……
http://crimemagazine.com/tainting-evidence-inside-scandals-fbi-crime-lab
Do you want me to continue?
Scrap the CIA while you’re at it.
And now the FSB does it.
The easy way is to build Quonset huts in Nome, AK. Transfer everyone. They get a land phone, cot, Desk, pen, paper, and a portable heater. No internet.
have you been here in the past 10 to 20 years????
The FBI charter has two primary legitimate functions - criminal investigation and counterintelligence. Those two functions should not be under the same agency.
bttt
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