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Chilling advice for Putin: You can save Russia, crush West, with nukes
American Family News ^ | 7/7/23 | Chad Groening, Billy Davis

Posted on 07/08/2023 5:57:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

A national defense analyst says NATO and the West need to pay attention to Russia’s repeated warnings about using nuclear weapons, this time from a notable academic who concludes Russia must consider nukes to stop NATO expansion and to “save humanity” from the West.

“Russia and its leadership seem to be facing a difficult choice,” begins the academic paper by Sergei Karaganov. “It becomes increasingly clear that a clash with the West cannot end even if we win a partial or even a crushing victory in Ukraine.”

That frightening document, which published in late June, goes on for another 2,900 words to conclude using “God’s weapon of Armageddon” will prevent – not create – a worsening crisis in Europe. "The enemy must know," he writes, "that we are ready to deliver a preemptive strike in retaliation for all of its current and past acts of aggression in order to prevent a slide into global thermonuclear war."

The word "nuclear" is used 27 times and "nuclear weapon" is used 10 times by Karaganov, a historian and political scientist.

(Excerpt) Read more at afn.net ...


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To: occamrzr06

“Any war with Russia will end in nukes.”

That is absolutely certain. Without a doubt.

But some of those crazy assed neocons don’t believe it.


41 posted on 07/08/2023 8:18:14 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: HighSierra5

Precisely because his “leftovers” of nuclear aftermath will be untenable on his borders and do nothing to improve the Russian economy of oligarch grifters. If we had anyone of any real competence and sharp— we’d get this message to him- that it is his juniors who work for him and “political scientists” who continue the old paranoia— who have it in for him and want him out of the way. They are the ones pushing this agenda to rise on the ashes they create and also cover up for their own incompetence. Stalinism is destructive, non-invested and run by thugs. He might see the light but can’t do much but continue being a natural commodities salesman with is staff of oligarchs spinning in place. So we have the end of Kissinger- thank God.

Instead we have the WEF multi-banksters trying to squeeze the last out of a fantastic country— for their own financial gain. Just like when they overthrew the last of the 300 year Romanov Tsars-— to gain the Romanov gold for the Bank of England (controlled since Waterloo by the single largest family of sovereign debt manipulators in the world— who are behind all the Schwabs and Soros clowns. Not honest brokers- they need war and tension. Always have.


42 posted on 07/08/2023 8:19:24 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis.)
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To: Mariner

I think they believe it will. But they also believe they will survive in their hideouts. In their minds, it is only the peasantry that will be wiped out.


43 posted on 07/08/2023 8:20:21 AM PDT by sport
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To: Brian Griffin

>> Russia has nuclear targeting problems

I live 100 miles from the nearest plausible target or major population area. I’d feel pretty smug and safe if it weren’t for their crappy guidance systems! LOL


44 posted on 07/08/2023 8:20:56 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: srmanuel

—> I think we could hear calls from the War Crowd in Washington for US Ground Troops.

No doubt.

Zeepers would be thrilled to see wwiii.

Berlin_zeepers would be riding their bikes through their Muslim cities shouting about Putin.


45 posted on 07/08/2023 8:21:15 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: MacNaughton; alternatives?
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46 posted on 07/08/2023 8:23:39 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Read further.

The US response includes protocols to launch if the president is not available or is determined to be hostage, compromised or incompetent. We only have a few minutes to decide.

I have witnessed the SAC CC blowing missile hatch covers with seconds before launch before confidence reporting was not confirmed, and the command authority was not responded due to communication issues at his end.

Do you really think the Deep State that runs Joe Biden is going to risk losing all of their nuclear assets to a Russian strike because Pedo Joe said no?

The Russians know this.

There is no winner in a nuclear war or survivor of a first strike.

The Russian intelligentsia can make believe it could be, but they’d be wrong.

Dead wrong.


47 posted on 07/08/2023 8:32:30 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

But isn’t Lil’ Fat Kim Trump’s friend? Merrick Garland’s just us department would DEMAND instant retaliation.

Maybe Jack Smith will ride the A-Bomb down to Pee-yong Yang.


48 posted on 07/08/2023 8:34:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Nervous Tick

“I’d feel pretty smug and safe if it weren’t for their crappy guidance systems! LOL”

I had to laugh as well. I thought at the same time a Russian general pounds the table and says, “Dang we missed.”


49 posted on 07/08/2023 8:34:29 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I am baffled as to why Russia has not already used tactical nukes in the Ukraine.

They could do so with military impunity and would lose far fewer men.

It’s not like anyone from NATO would lift a finger.


50 posted on 07/08/2023 8:35:39 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I think the Deep State will be more concerned with their own skins, than the country. The would just move to New Zealand, Brussels, or wherever their bugout shelters are located.


51 posted on 07/08/2023 8:39:30 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Alternatively, a nuclear explosion could take place in a second tier West Coast city like Spokane or Fresno, and it could be blamed on the crazy dictator, if the U.S. wants to start a world war. That would give Biden and his handlers an excuse to shut down the Web, specifically the alternate media, in order to prevent the sort of skepticism avalanche that destroyed the Bud Light brand, or even the slow motion debunking that undermined the official lines, on the assassinations of King and the Kennedys.
52 posted on 07/08/2023 8:42:33 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

This person is crazy the west would only want to end Russia because of their out right aggression. Do we really believe that if they can’t beat Ukraine thy would take on the whole rest of the Nato alliance? If they started attacking with Nuclear weapons what would we do? WE would blast the main cities in the Russia central area and the rest of Russia would leave and that would be the end of them. That is what would happen.


53 posted on 07/08/2023 8:42:39 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: alternatives?

Why do I keep feeling like this is June 1914?


54 posted on 07/08/2023 8:43:35 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“A rabid dog that has teeth will use them when backed into a corner.”

But first the whipped cur (the Russian people) that senses weakness in their leaders will rebel and that will be the end of Putin.


55 posted on 07/08/2023 8:44:49 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: alternatives?
Russia leadership’s view is they are backed into a corner. It really doesn’t matter what everyone else’s view is.

Well that's true for your view, too. Yours is no more true than those who say not.

I don't think Putin is dumb. He's not so stupid to believe that, but he does want to reestablish the Soviet Union or at least the big parts of it. That starts with Ukraine--the biggest piece not under his or NATO's control, nor too close to China.

He's not a fanatic like Rasputin, nor a master strategist like Otto Von Bismark, but he does play the game, in his own ruthless way.

He doesn't think Russia is cornered as much as he thinks there is an opportunity that would slip away (Ukraine joins NATO--which was becoming closer and closer to real by late 2021--and China taking leadership over the Central Asian Republics--which is still ongoing) if he did not make his move.

56 posted on 07/08/2023 8:45:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Mariner

Xi told him flat no. Modi told him don’t as this risks WWII.

I can only imagine the world outrage, even BRICS, if that happened.

They still can’t stop bitching about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, 80 years ago.

You cannot assume this is a zero some game with only NATO.


57 posted on 07/08/2023 8:48:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: alternatives?

Really?

They desire more than all else power—not plain, semi-hopeful survival even in a lavish shelter.

They aren’t giving up their tools of control, no way, no how.

If Russia is a danger to THEM (don’t think us, but them, the Deep State), they’ll take—or try to take them out.


58 posted on 07/08/2023 8:50:43 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

As if we needed any additional proof that we are being robbed of EVERYTHING! Our Treasure, our future and our LIBERTY! “According to a report by the National Bank of Ukraine, the country currently holds a staggering $39 billion in foreign reserves, reaching an unprecedented milestone in its history as an independent nation.
This remarkable achievement coincides with Ukraine’s ongoing receipt of substantial cash inflows from its allied nations.
According to the most recent figures released by the National Bank of Ukraine, the country’s reserve stood at $38.99 billion as of July 1st, surpassing the June figure of $37.3 billion.”


59 posted on 07/08/2023 9:17:53 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

This guy is very close to Putin and Lavrov. He is head of Russia’s Council on Foreign and Defense Policy. He is making these comments o/b/o Putin, clearly bullying threats — which is so very typical of Russia — in an attempt to cow the West into halting its support of Ukraine. He knows — and Putin knows — that Russia’s use of nukes against the West will result in the disappearance of Russia.


60 posted on 07/08/2023 9:30:22 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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