Posted on 06/26/2023 9:26:40 PM PDT by Cronos
As a two-mile-long convoy of military mutineers neared Moscow Saturday, a Russian presidential plane took off from the capital at 2:15 p.m. local time. It flew in the direction of President Putin’s native St. Petersburg until disappearing from radar at 3:06 p.m., according to Flight Radar.
“Putin is working at the Kremlin,” spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
A Russian air force attack on the mutineers was a fiasco. Soldiers from the Wagner mercenary group shot down six helicopters and one Ilyushin IL-18 airborne command center. The combined shootdowns killed 30 Russian airmen. Debris from one falling helicopter set ablaze the oil depot of Voronezh.
“There has not been such a tragedy in the history of our aviation for a long time,” a Russian TV presenter, Vladimir Solovyov, lamented Saturday night. “How many aircraft have we lost today? What is this?”
In Voronezh, the “Wagnerites” took control of local military facilities. the 277th Parachute Regiment switched sides.
“I ask everyone to get out of our way,” Prigozhin boomed
...Normally, Moscow would have been protected by the 4th Guards Tank Division, a unit set up by Stalin to guard the capital against western invaders. Before Putin’s attack on Ukraine last year, this unit had about 225 tanks and 300 armored personnel carriers. They suffered 80 percent losses in the Ukraine war, largely in Kharkiv and Luhansk. The British Defense Ministry has estimated it will take years to rebuild the division.
To defend the Moscow region without tanks, local authorities blocked highways with school buses and dump trucks, and started to dig up asphalt with excavators. Bridges over the Oka River were blockaded. Inside Moscow, more blockades were erected and Mayor Sergei Sobyanin imposed a “counter-terrorist regime.” Panic spread among some residents and all air tickets out of Moscow were sold out by Saturday night,
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“since they were forced to sell their soul to big Government China.”
As opposed to the USA doing it willingly??
the pervo homo world is Putin’s Russia - they have tons of it in their military and prisons.
Didn’t you experience it in Russia?
“since they were forced to sell their soul to big Government China.”
As opposed to the USA doing it willingly??
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America has not signed up to ANY alliance with China against the West!
However, China indeed forced Russia to become its slave via a terrible “alliance” diminishing Russia as an independent nation, and using it as another accessory against the West. It says alot about Putin’s weakness. How could he let China gangraine Russia like that!? Crazy.
Xi and Putin spectacularly reaffirm their alliance against the West :
“America has not signed up to ANY alliance with China against the West!”
Sure, we have. We help fund China. IN 1994, 80% of their population lived in poverty and they did not have advanced weapons capabilities. By 2014, 80% of their population lives better than you do, and they now have advanced weapons capabilities that we gave them, legally and illegally.
So what if we did not sign come of pact. We have them far more than any pact could ever have given.
You and your pervo fantasies. As you well know, I don’t participate in your Western press circle jerks. Leave me out of your fantasies as well.
No we haven’t been funding China, but we have been trading with China in an unbalanced way, unfortunately. Like the whole world does, unfortunately. That’s the core of Globalism.
Our western companies building up factories there because of cheap, cheap, cheap labour... THAT also helped China.
Also, a big mistake America did, was when Bill Clinton openly pushed hard for China to join the World Trade Organisation. The idea was to make China a normal business partner. But China than abused the system and raped us all with it.
Thus the WEST is a VICTIM of CHINA’s behaviour. It’s definitely NOT an alliance!
China and Russia though... have OPENLY signed and celebrated a true alliance with an official GOAL to hurt the West! It’s a TOTAL different matter.
You insult FR members here saying they have “pervo” fantasies because they oppose the anti-western Russia-China-Iran alliance.
Does this mean you support the Russia-China-Iran alliance!?
When will you denounce the globohomo doctrine managed by China-Russia? The forced homosexuality organized in Russian prisons, and used by officers as a tool to intimidate their Russian soldiers.. it’s all getting out of hand in Russia.
This sodomistic tradition needs to end in Russia. But it won’t be possible as long as Putin remains in power.
“No we haven’t been funding China, but we have been trading with China in an unbalanced way”
Childish argument.
“When will you denounce the globohomo doctrine managed by China-Russia?”
Bold faced lie.
Russia and China ban homosexuals while Ukraine embraces them, and their leader is one. The globoghomo is Ukraine and Biden.
So, I do denounce the globohomo agenda, while you support it while claiming not to so as to hide your homosexual agenda.
P.S. F*** France!
“Childish argument.”
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Well... you haven’t responded at all to my analysis!
Let me repeat then :
Our western companies building up factories in China because of cheap, cheap, cheap labour... THAT also helped China.
Also, a big mistake America did, was when Bill Clinton openly pushed hard for China to join the World Trade Organisation. The idea was to make China a normal business partner. But China then abused the system and raped us all with it.
Don’t you agree with that assessment??
Thus the WEST is a VICTIM of CHINA’s behaviour. It’s definitely NOT an alliance!
China and Russia though... have OPENLY signed and celebrated a true alliance with an official GOAL to hurt the West! It’s a TOTALLY different matter.
You understand the difference now I hope?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60664169
This is a general article from last September...
it lays it out fairly well.
As for size and location ... I would say
yet to be determined
The real question is ....
How would the world react ?
Would you push “the button”?
“Our western companies building up factories in China because of cheap, cheap, cheap labour... THAT also helped China.
Also, a big mistake America did, was when Bill Clinton openly pushed hard for China to join the World Trade Organisation. The idea was to make China a normal business partner. But China then abused the system and raped us all with it.
Don’t you agree with that assessment??”
NO! You missed most of the real ramifications. Typical simpleton who reads the Internet and thinks she’s got it all figured out. You might want to read about intellectual property thefts and how Hillary helped Wal-Mart circumvent the law. I have no doubt such complex situations will escape you and you will turn back to some google crap.
Here is a good kneeslapper from Frenchy on the big coup day Frenchy was pissin’ all up and down his leg in excitement. He thought the guy who we were told just got done shootin’ and killin’ thousands of Ukies is sane and now on the side of sane people like himself.
Here is what USA-FRANCE had to say:
“Well, well...
Prigojin said today what all sane people knew all along:
That Russia indeed completely lied about Ukraine. Ukraine was never the aggressive one, and only tries to defend itself against Russia’s invasion, greed and lust for imperialism.
Wagner is now supporting the Ukraine narrative and truthfulness. Way to go !!
Prigojin is merely saying that the Kremlin are a bunch of spoiled deep-state politicians suffering from greed.”
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This was just the beginning of USA-FRANCE’s big clown world day.
From your link:
“However, Russia might also be deterred from using tactical nuclear weapons by another power - China.
“Russia is heavily dependent on Chinese support,” says Dr Heather Williams, nuclear expert at Kings College London.
“But China has a ‘no first use’ nuclear doctrine. So if Putin did use them, it would be incredibly difficult for China to stand by him.
“If he used them, he would probably lose China.””
—Would you push “the button”?
I make no claim to strategic thinking, that said, other than a pure terror weapon there would be little to gain for Russia.
A ‘dirty’ event in Moscow would do far more damage. Not explosive, simply a car with radioactive exhaust driving around the city. Or a radioactive saltshaker... Or two or three...
“Well, well...
Prigojin said today what all sane people knew all along:
That Russia indeed completely lied about Ukraine.”
USA-FRANCE”
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Thank you dforest for pointing out what I said above:
That finally Prigozhin said OUT LOUD what all sane people knew all along : That Russia completely lied about the Ukraine and the Ukraine war.
You have a problem with my statement or do you support it?
Evidently I am doubling down on what I said.
It is truly wonderful that even nutcases like Prigozhin is saying what sane people knew and have said all along!
Well you are agreeing with me then!
Did you even read what I wrote??
I repeat:
“A big mistake America did, was when Bill Clinton openly pushed hard for China to join the World Trade Organisation. The idea was to make China a normal business partner. But China then abused the system and raped us all with it.”
THAT IS THE KEY PROBLEM.
And when I said China abused the system and raped us with it - that evidently includes the property theft. That’s well-known to everyone.
Here's the real deal
Paleocon neo isolationsts conjur up all sorts of balderdacious drivel to support their loss
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