Ron DeSantis border plan unveiled: End to birthright citizenship, US troops to operate in Mexico and promise to finish wall

The New York Post ^ | 06/26/2023 | MaryAnn Martinez

[SPDSHDW]

My issue is our Military “operating in Mexico” is a straight in your face declaration of war.

Which, 10 years ago, we’d smash Mexico’s face in. Now a days i’m not sure.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

I’d like one of these guys to give me real details on how he’d get it done.
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People in Hell would like a glass of water too, but like them you’re asking for something you cannot have. Why? Because NO candidate knows the level of support or opposition any proposed plan will have.

[WeaslesRippedMyFlesh]

Fairy dust.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

The word fan is short for fanatic.

Fanatics are unable to move their attention from their obsession.

It makes them quite boring to the people who do not share their obsession.

And leaves normal people filled with an amused distain for the object of their obsession.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I find it really interesting that my very neutral and true statement has become something of a litmus test.

People are reading their own preconceptions into it.

[JayGalt]

What a fatuous question. Go back to grammar school. You specialize in ignoring reality to reduce to absurdity. Trump was more successful against the Globalist/Leftist Congress than anyone else could have been. DeSantis would only make motions and spout rhetoric.

If you need to ask why we should re-elect Donald Trump read over this list a few times...

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

or better yet, read going hot's excellent post https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4163238/posts?page=198#198

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

DO NOT BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD OF THESE “PROMISES”. DESANTIS IS BACKED BY PAUL RYAN, JEB BUSH, KARL ROVE, GEORGE BUSH, JOHN SUNUNU ET AL. REMEMBER THE PROMISES RYAN MADE IF HE MADE SPEAKER? DID NOT KEEP ANY OF THE LEGITIMATE CONSERVATIVE ONES. THESE DEEP STATE ESTABLISHMENT RINOS SUPPORT DESANTIS FOR A REASON-THEY CAN CONTROL HIM AND HE WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE FOR YOUR VOTE AND STAB US IN THE BACK JUST LIKE EVERY NAMED INDIVIDUAL IN THIS THREAD HAS IN THE PAST!!!!

[JesusIsLord]

Skipping ahead to ~1h 4min accesses the beginning of his border and deportation segment.

The detail I don't hear from Trump or any other candidate is HOW (WHAT ARE THE MEANS) our government will use to investigate and identify illegal aliens? Some detail is given about building a wall and stopping further entry at the border - but no detail as to how the government finds and identifies the 20 million already here. Even in Trump's deportation speech, my sense was that his emphasis was to remove the violent illegals but again, there was no detail on HOW to find the 20 million already here.

If Trump, through executive order, gave a number of agencies authority to deport all illegal aliens - my question is HOW do they go about identifying/finding them? This is a detail no one seems willing to address.

[JesusIsLord]

Invading Mexico is not something even a half-brained President would do.

I would have no problem with us invading Mexico, creating a DMZ, destroying all cartels and establishing U.S. military rule similar to our presence in Japan after WW2.

[JayGalt]

There is no question about willing to address. It is about addressing the issues in orderly fashion. It would be foolish to telephone the details and give time to think of loop holes.

The laws on the books can be brought to bear. The ending of birth rite citizenship for children of noncitizens would have many self deport as would a crackdown on hiring of illegals, and the ending of federal support for programs giving aid to illegals. The real key is to make the US less friendly for illegals such that self deportation becomes a river. President Trump has stated that he will be pursuing that course as well as targeted removals.

I really don’t understand what you are looking to hear. We cannot stop everyone that appears to be of foreign heritage on the street & ask for papers. We do not want to live in that kind of society. Drying up social programs, enforcing hiring legal citizens, and stopping Government funds being used to support illegals medical care, schooling, housing & food will winnow the number exponentially.

[going hot]

You would spend your time more wisely if you held a conversation with a coop full of chickens rather than this TDS bunch on FR.

[CarolinaReaganFan]

Build the wall!
deeSantis is funny.
did he ever tell reporters how to pronounce his name?
trump’s difficulty was that POS’s McCommell and Ryan wouldn’t bringup the wall for funding and after trump diverted military funding , that was tied up in court for a long time.At least he got some wall built.
DeeSantis is a RINO and they not going to let him even if he wanted which is doubtful .....
i lost track after a couple of flip flops ...Does anyone know DeSantis current position on ukraine???

[JayGalt]

LOL. You are so right.
It’s not for the TDS bunch; its for other readers, wandering in who might believe the misinformation.

[going hot]

Well there is that.

Two groups of thought here.

One, giving help to those who wander in with naivete and need guidance on whom to believe,

Then there is the thought that if they are wandering around anywhere on this forum they likely have sufficient intellect to spot a shill without the jay (no offense/pun intended) sounding the alarm.

[JayGalt]

So don’t feed the trolls.