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PCA Passes Overture Condeming Sex-Changes For Children by 58% to 42% Vote
Protestia ^ | 06/23/2023 | Protestia

Posted on 06/26/2023 9:19:50 AM PDT by aimhigh

Edited on 06/26/2023 10:35:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The theologically conservative Presbyterian Church in America had its General Assembly last week where they passed Overture 12: Petition Government to End Sex-change Procedures for Minors. The script calls for the denomination to petition the Biden administration to “renounce the sin” of encouraging and entrenching ‘gender-affirming care’ like puberty blockers and surgical intervention in minors.

The overture states that the PCA is “joyfully and confessionally committed to the Bible’s teaching on the complementarity of men and women” and that “medical and social interventions related to so-called sex change procedures are a rejection of God’s design that will prevent his blessing, grace, and joy to be experienced.”

It further calls sex-changes a rejection of science, argues that most minors with body dysphoria will grow out of it once they reach adulthood, condemns the government for removing children from parents who will not affirm their child transitioning, and says that the PCA must “make a stand” against doctors when they violate the Hippocratic Oath by transitioning children.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childabuse; children; church; homosexualagenda; pca; presbyterian; sexchangeoperations; sexchanges; sexhchanges; trans; xyxx
"The vote was 1089-793, with the affirming side winning 58%-42%. Though that sounds very close, many Presbyterians opposed it not because they supported sex changes for children, but because they disagreed that it was the church’s role to petition the government over matters of public policy."
1 posted on 06/26/2023 9:19:50 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

imagine that 42% support “sex changes for children”


2 posted on 06/26/2023 9:23:15 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: aimhigh

Presbyterians and the American Revolution - Bruce Gore you tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9rxSyEWp2I&list=PLYFBLkHop2alIsLPnktm273tzHRliVQkN

They don’t know their history.

This video series is very good in revealing the role of the church in the American Revolution.

Please watch this series.


3 posted on 06/26/2023 9:25:52 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

42% are ok with mutilating children. This from a so called church. End times - it won’t be long now


4 posted on 06/26/2023 9:30:45 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: aimhigh

Well, that is somewhat encouraging to hear in one respect disheartening to hear overall...the government has been very invasive in Christian morality...illegally so. It is not only the right of churches but the responsibility to resist and be vocal about these horrifically immoral actions the democrats have pushed. God, does not want cowards who remain silent...he wants activists just as he was.


5 posted on 06/26/2023 9:31:23 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: aimhigh

“but because they disagreed that it was the church’s role to petition the government over matters of public policy.” “

No wonder Christian religions are dying. They refuse to fight for their beliefs.

The Muslims, the LGBT mafia on the other hand...

Any group that refuses to defend its interests will inevitably end up in the dustbin of history... and deservedly so.


6 posted on 06/26/2023 9:40:22 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: PGR88

It’s just a matter of time before it flips. People, women in particular, surrender far to easily in the name of “peace” with our fellow citizens.


7 posted on 06/26/2023 9:42:51 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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” imagine that 42% support “sex changes for children” “

No, that is not true. The article said and it was repeated in the post just above yours….. “Though that sounds very close, many Presbyterians opposed it not because they supported sex changes for children, but because they disagreed that it was the church’s role to petition the government over matters of public policy."

8 posted on 06/26/2023 9:52:24 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: aquila48

Yes, this theonomist despairs of the two kingdom theology weakening the church’s prophetic voice.

Well, she spoke. But 58-42? This is a conservative Bible believing denomination. It’s not that the minority think child sexual mutilation is ok. It’s that they believe that it’s not the church’s job to call the civil magistrate to account. I couldn’t disagree more strongly.


9 posted on 06/26/2023 9:54:04 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: gibsonguy

You are wrong….. You did not read the article!

Though that sounds very close, many Presbyterians opposed it not because they supported sex changes for children, but because they disagreed that it was the church’s role to petition the government over matters of public policy.


10 posted on 06/26/2023 9:54:05 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: CatOwner
People, women in particular, surrender far to easily in the name of “peace” with our fellow citizens.

either the world is standing still, and I am spinning out of control, or much of the world has gone mad.

I have old friends and relatives who will mouth any slogan they hear on cable news, from "The President is a Russian spy" to "we must affirm gender choices of 5 year-olds." I know people who called the FBI to report work colleagues or neighbors, because they suspected these people were in Washington DC on January 6, 2021

30 years ago, these same people would have never considered saying or doing similar things, so I attribute it to constant propaganda and gas-lighting, and a sub-conscious search for protection in the ideas of the herd.

Its either that, or I am going nuts.

11 posted on 06/26/2023 9:57:03 AM PDT by PGR88
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The Westminster Confession of Faith 31.4 says that “Synods and councils …are not to intermeddle with civil affairs which concern the commonwealth, unless by way of humble petition in cases extraordinary; or, by way of advice, for satisfaction of conscience,

I understand that churches don't want to get engaged in government - but all these good Presbyterians feel that allowing society to mutilate children under the guise of a flash-in-the-pan post-modern ideology doesn't rise to the level of "conscience?"

12 posted on 06/26/2023 10:01:39 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: aimhigh

Why not? They’ve been doing it against guns for years.


13 posted on 06/26/2023 10:09:30 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Actually l did. I do not believe rendering onto Caesar applies to gender mutilation of children.


14 posted on 06/26/2023 10:12:00 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: aimhigh

PCA must be undergoing infiltration by PCUSA types


15 posted on 06/26/2023 11:05:31 AM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: PGR88
"imagine that 42% support “sex changes for children”

42% of supposed Christians. We are in end times.

16 posted on 06/26/2023 11:15:34 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America)
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To: PGR88

Thank you for sharing the WCF stance. It sounds like a more serious issue may be drift from the Westminster confessional standards.

I’d like to see the reasoning from the Assembly discussion around how WCF 31.4 does *not* apply here.


17 posted on 06/26/2023 12:13:25 PM PDT by Strident ("Hi, my name is Joe and I am powerless over making $#!7 up")
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To: PGR88

MY THOUGHT ALSO.


18 posted on 06/26/2023 2:07:46 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: gibsonguy

Well, of course it’s not okay to mutilate children…. But you said “42% are ok with mutilating children”, and that was not the case. Most of that 42% were NOT okay with the mutilation, they were voting for a different reason and that’s what the article went on to explain.

However I must say that if I should have had a vote I would agree with the side that won the vote, because you are right that in this case we are not obliged to obey “Caesar”.


19 posted on 06/27/2023 2:19:15 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I agree with what you are stating here. When I said you are wrong, I was speaking about your saying “42% were in support of sex change for kids”. They were NOT in support of that, they believed they should stay out of sending a letter to congress. I am glad, though, that the other side won the vote.


20 posted on 06/27/2023 2:26:03 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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