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Ukraine cannot win if Biden bars attacks on Russian soil
The Hill ^ | 06/22/2023 | JONATHAN SWEET AND MARK TOTH

Posted on 06/22/2023 5:57:55 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

When the Ukrainian Army begins pushing entrenched Russian adversaries out of defensive positions in the Donbas region during the initial phases, recapturing and liberating sovereign territory, the Biden administration will face a new dilemma.

Will Biden support Ukrainian ground forces in the military pursuit of a retreating Russian army that attempts to escape annihilation by seeking sanctuary on the Russian side of the border? Will he support artillery and air strikes on the Russian side of the border?

Following the May 22 Belgorod raid by elements of the pro-Ukrainian Russian Volunteer Corps and the Freedom of Russia Legion, both composed solely of anti-Putin Russian citizens, the White House foreshadowed that it would not. State Department spokesman Matt Miller said, “As a general policy matter, we have been clear that we don’t support the use of U.S.-made equipment being used for attacks inside of Russia.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 17thmonth; 4threich; 7yearwar; biden; bidensrinolemmings; europeonunion; globohomo; joewantsaworldwar; liberalworldorder; putinapologists; russialosing; russian; ukraine; win
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Jonathan and Mark want to start WWIII
1 posted on 06/22/2023 5:57:55 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So, Biden is running WWIII?


2 posted on 06/22/2023 5:59:18 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

we beat the British without attacking them at home.

Ukraine just needs to go gorilla hit and run and wear Russia down


3 posted on 06/22/2023 6:00:19 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: ChicagoConservative27

4 posted on 06/22/2023 6:00:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Russia will call up men by the millions if the war comes to Russian soil in a serious way.


5 posted on 06/22/2023 6:00:49 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Well then, Hill ‘journalists’, get your little dicks over there and fight. The only thing worse in the multiverse than you folks is the Biden family.


6 posted on 06/22/2023 6:00:52 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yes and that most certainly will start WWIII.

According to our Zeepers here Ukraine is already winning so these guys are just ignorant and dangerous minded fools.


7 posted on 06/22/2023 6:02:29 AM PDT by dforest
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“When the Ukrainian Army begins pushing...”

When?


8 posted on 06/22/2023 6:03:00 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Our empire of sodomy is failing as it should. How else could it go? )
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Biden oks an attack on the Russian homeland? What could go wrong.
9 posted on 06/22/2023 6:05:24 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Brian Griffin
Russia will call up men by the millions

they don't have the money, and besides most Russians don't really care about Ukraine that much, so that move would probably provoke a civil war


10 posted on 06/22/2023 6:16:54 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
we beat the British without attacking them at home.

We had the advantage of having the entire Atlantic Ocean between us and the British homeland.

Defeated Russian invaders have the enviable position of being able to always scurry back to their hinterland to lick their wounds because the Ukrainians "aren't allowed" to pursue them.

Retreating Russian invaders shouldn't be given the privilege of always having a "safe harbor" to which they can (temporarily) flee and where they are "immune" to reprisal.

Regards,

11 posted on 06/22/2023 6:17:59 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"Winning the war means taking the fight to Russia — not invading Russia, but defeating its ability to wage war from Russian territory. This war ends with a defeat of Russian ground forces. Their ability to conduct offensive operations in Ukraine must be destroyed now and into the foreseeable future."

Ok. So how is that done without invading Russia? The retired Obama era colonel doesn't spell that out.
And how do you do that without NATO (otherwise known as US) boots on the ground inside Russia?

12 posted on 06/22/2023 6:19:56 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RueQXJCSVUI


13 posted on 06/22/2023 6:21:08 AM PDT by piroque ("When the SHTF I'm gonna hunker down until all those idiots kill each other. " )
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To: alexander_busek

good points


14 posted on 06/22/2023 6:21:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: jacknhoo

“When the Ukrainian Army begins pushing entrenched Russian adversaries out of defensive positions in the Donbas region....”

Huh?


15 posted on 06/22/2023 6:22:00 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: ChicagoConservative27
" Will Biden support Ukrainian ground forces in the military pursuit of a retreating Russian army that attempts to escape annihilation by seeking sanctuary on the Russian side of the border?"

extreme case of living in a dream world....

16 posted on 06/22/2023 6:23:33 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: canuck_conservative

Most Americans don’t give a RATs ass about Ukraine. So why do you think you know anything about “most Russians”?

Oh wait.....canuck


17 posted on 06/22/2023 6:25:05 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Brian Griffin
Russia will call up men by the millions if the war comes to Russian soil in a serious way.

Why wait? Seriously: Why not do it now? Why not call up those millions of conscripts and immediately throw them into battle?

The Russians have been dilly-dallying for well over a year, fighting an inconclusive war Special Military Operation that is only embarrassing them as a preeminent military power. What is staying their hand? Do they want a long, drawn-out military confrontation with an allegedly inferior opponent?

They could have called up a million men 15 months ago, and given them that much more time to train and practice field manœuvers.

Do the Russians want to lose?!

Regards,

18 posted on 06/22/2023 6:25:23 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: cdcdawg

I was just reading they were stalled on their counteroffensive (tm). Thevve been pushing. Just not very far.


19 posted on 06/22/2023 6:27:12 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: Tench_Coxe
Ok. So how is that done without invading Russia? The retired Obama era colonel doesn't spell that out.

You're disappointed that he didn't exactly spell out what strategy Ukraine should pursue to accomplish that goal!?

Are you the same fellow who complained when D-Day was launched - without a preliminary announcement by Eisenhower, say, six weeks in advance?

Regards,

20 posted on 06/22/2023 6:27:44 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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