Posted on 06/13/2023 9:40:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
A new law in Illinois soon requires electric vehicle charging stations in the garage of new or renovated homes. Critics say this will increase costs.
State Sen. Sara Feigenholtz, D-Chicago, filed Senate Bill 40 to keep Illinois on its path to having one million EVs on the roads by 2030. The bill was signed into law by Gov. J.B. Pritzker Friday with an effective date of Jan. 1, 2024.
In 2021, Pritzker signed the Reimagining Electric Vehicles in Illinois Act into law, which incentivizes EV production across the state. There are also state tax incentives for the purchase of electric vehicles.
State Rep. Robyn Gabel, D-Evanston, explained during House debates the benefits she sees in SB40.
"We know that approximately 80% of people charge their EVs at home," Gabel said. "This bill will ensure that Illinois residents can do just that."
The measure passed the Illinois Senate in March with a vote of 39-16. The House approved the bill in May with a vote of 60-38. Much of the conversation focused on the project's potential costs to consumers.
State Rep. Travis Weaver, R-Edwards, asked why downstate residents need this when numbers show a low amount of EV drivers in those downstate communities.
"If less than 1% of cars on the roads are EVs and less than 0.1% of cars in my district are EVs, I just don't see why we are having people in downstate Illinois pay for this infrastructure," Weaver said.
Within 90 days of the effective date of the act, all large multifamily building permits shall require all parking to be EV-capable. Two years after the effective date, there are similar requirements on other residential buildings.
Gabel said the cost would be under $1,000 for the setup in these homes. However, state Rep. Dan Swanson, R-Alpha, said other costs are not...
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Expect more home fires.
What about the millions of people who live in apartments without garages? Every city has them. Residents have to park on the street, or in open parking stalls behind the apartment buildings. There will never be charging stations for these folks.
Will the law build ten new nuclear power plants to supply the electricity to charge all those electric vehicles.
Unintended consequences.
Can this law actually force new builds to have 200a service?
Can the local utility handle the theoretical loads of all those charging stations? Transformers? substations? They can’t ignore it. If the charging stations are there then people could use them. The loads are massive.
Also if you read the article one concern was all large multifamily dwellings will require charging in all parking spaces. People who don’t DIY anything electrical or work in construction just don’t understand what this means. That’s not “just” a 200amp home service in a single family car garage with a single 50a or 75a charging station. That’s a massive service and all the wiring infrastructure necessary for a duplex, triplex, or large apartment complex to charge EVERY space presumably at the same time? Thats just... there aren’t words for how crazy that is. Do people realize how much heavy electrical wire, conduit and construction that is? Setups like that aren’t simple, safe, easy, or affordable and will require expensive periodic inspections and maintenance.
The next law better be fireproof homes mandate
The Reimagining Electrical Vehicles in Illinois’ Act. Man, somebody pulled that out of their butt.
And don’t think for one moment there won’t be a group who plan to all plug in at the same time and take the grid down. Antifa would see that as a win-win.
“charging stations in the garage of new or renovated homes.”
Is there a law in IL that requires a house to have a garage? While I would not want a house lacking a garage, many existing homes do not have one, especially in cities.
Is there an industry standard for charging stations? Thinking at one time there was some proprietary snags.
Also, did I not hear one time an EV maker advised owners not to park their EV in a garage or near any other vehicles?
I’m sure the insurance industry will view this as an additional liability that will cost homeowners an additional fee to assume the risk.
Woah...
I figured that simply adding what is effectively an additional dryer outlet to the out side or garage of a single family home would be less than $100 when dealing with a new build. But once you get to anything larger than a triplex I see where this becomes a major issue (where is the parking, how is the power run?) and three phase is a lot more complex than standard 120/240 split phase. Will the parking need it’s own transformer?
or renovated homes.
What constitutes “renovated”? Plumbing repairs? Any work by a contractor? I am guessing anything requiring a permit.
About 11% of Illinois residents live in apartments. Statistically, most renters have lower incomes and tend to be minorities.
Remind your friends that the EV push is driven by wealthy white liberals, who clearly could care less about ‘the little people.’
Yeah, right. Even if it only cost $1,000, which is doubtful, you'll be charged $4,000 for the mandated "feature."
Exactly.
Now a 15 amp circuit *is* a slow charge. But it will charge.
We did just that for my wife’s plug-in hybrid. Ya have to plan ahead...
Whoever “Gabel” is, who thinks this can be done for under $1000 has never done wiring, bought wire at today’s prices, modified or replaced a breaker panel/ subpage, or purchased a level 2 charger.
When we built this house we had a 4 gauge wire roughed in from the 300 amp panel (200 amp service but we were looking ahead). That was a ~50’ run. Our present “EV” only supports a 30 amp level 2 charge ( its a 2015 ) but the infrastructure could support a 60 amp level 2 which is what most modern EVs want at home. My brother just installed a 60 amp charger in his home and had to add a sub panel, run 60’ of wire, run it in CONDUIT through the basement, up a wall to the garage wall, and install the charger. Cost him 5 grand.
Now imagine the costs of requiring an apartment complex to put in the infrastructure to support MULTIPLE 60 amp circuits. So much for affordable housing, eh?
Two thoughts.
The politicians aren’t that smart.
Have never paid for anything DIY or done the work.
And they don’t care.
Oh wait that’s three...
And yeah, the cost of let’s say 20 40-60 amp circuits, burial, and equipment... that’s commercial/industrial work. Transformer upgrades or adds. On and on.
Idiots.
If anyone is left in Illinois by 2030, I hope they are ALL politicians, so that they can devour each other.
You mean like 7 o’clock in the morning when most people are getting ready to charge up their vehicles so they can go to work???
NAAAAAHHHH, people will be working from their CAVES.
Deep State doesn't care, does it...
I wonder what the first “safety feature” was required for an automobile? Headlights I suppose?
Now it is airbags (and if they deploy your car is considered totaled) and probably backup cameras and all sorts of other stuff that makes them so expensive.
I imagine my 50 year old home isn’t insulated to whatever the code is nowadays. Hmm - I wonder if the states that have banned wood and gas fireplaces have also banned repairs to them?
Here in Washington state with the new “assault weapons” ban, you also can’t buy some (any?) parts to repair them.
Will the state pay for the increased price of the homeowners fire insurance?
> would be less than $100 when dealing with a new build.<
The wire alone is over $5 per foot and the GFCI breaker is $150.
I recently added a 50 amp 220 service 60 feet from the breaker box. The first estimate came in at $3400. I took the cheapest at $1800. It was a little, old, semi-retired guy who did that kind of work for beer money.
As I read Sen Bill 40 there was continual reference to federally assisted affordable housing. I have zero plans of ever living in, or visiting Illinois in the future, so I didn’t put much effort into the read.
EC
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