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LIVE: President Donald J Trump to Deliver Remarks at Trump National Golf Club Bedminster-6/13/2023
RSBN ^ | June 13,2023 | Right Side Broadcasting Network

Posted on 06/13/2023 8:59:08 AM PDT by Lakeside Granny



TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bedminster; billclinton; clintonsockdrawer; hillary; indictment; jacksmith; newjersey; presdjtrump; sandyberger; sandyburglersocks; scotus8to0mcdonnell; socks; trump; trump2024; trump47; trumpindictment; trumpisexecbranch; trumpspeech
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To: Lakeside Granny; All

You know what I think.
This whole inditement on Trump doesn’t stand a chance to throw Trump out of the race. It will only greatly strengthen him. The Democrats know that, and THAT is the whole point!!
The Democrats attack Trump because they know that the boomerang effect will be inevitable on Joe Biden who has done the same thing concerning classified documents (and worse..). The Democrats don’t want Joe Biden re-elected. They only way they found to get rid of Biden is by using Trump as a anti-Biden tool. The risk for the Democrats of course is that it makes Trump stronger... He could be the one winning...


281 posted on 06/13/2023 7:41:30 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

No, they always overreach. Jail for 100 years for Trump? People see it for the BS it is and they will continue to vote for Trump in maga ultra astounding numbers the dems can’t begin to cheat!


282 posted on 06/13/2023 7:59:51 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Jane Long

“A nation of well informed men, who have been taught to know & to prize the rights God has given them, cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of IGNORANCE that TYRANNY BEGINS”
Benjamin Franklin
Yes, we MUST retake the WH...but WHAT ABOUT CONGRESS?
What’s YOUR CONGRESS CRITTER doing to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution” and OUR WAY OF LIFE?
Don’t be ignorant. Check up on him/her every quarter or so FREE at the site found at this link: https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/
SHARE THIS WITH YOUR FRIENDS. WE NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET!


283 posted on 06/13/2023 8:00:52 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (CONS)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Just in from Newsmax.

Bad news for the Desimps hoping Trump goes to jail even more so than the Dems.

A trial for the documents case if it happens won’t be until AFTER the election in NOVEMBER 2024!


284 posted on 06/13/2023 8:06:53 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

Was this on one of their programs? The chyron?

Great news, regardless!! Thx!


285 posted on 06/13/2023 8:08:06 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Lakeside Granny
Lindell is next.


286 posted on 06/13/2023 8:10:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: USA-FRANCE

The Dimocraps would rather face four years of Trump (after which they “might” rebound) than four more years of Buy-DUNG from which they most likely would never recover.


287 posted on 06/13/2023 8:13:20 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trintarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Lakeside Granny

I am very late. But thank you for the ping❣


288 posted on 06/13/2023 8:20:53 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: lightman

Amen


289 posted on 06/13/2023 8:24:11 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Pajamajan

Amen 🙏


290 posted on 06/13/2023 8:25:17 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: TianaHighrider; Lakeside Granny

291 posted on 06/13/2023 8:26:56 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Jane Long

He doesn’t know Jack Schmith.

(Smith, that is!)


292 posted on 06/13/2023 8:36:45 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trintarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Jane Long

It was from a couple of the expert guests on Eric Boiling and Greg Kelly.

Jack Smith cited the Hillary case in the indictment.

That means Trump’s lawyers can use discovery to demand all the files, internal communications, emails etc related to that case and the actions of the DOJ and FBI and all the rest.

Trial if it happens gets pushed easily to after November 2024.

This could go on for YEARS and into Trump’s presidency.

Sorry, Desimps.


293 posted on 06/13/2023 8:39:47 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Jane Long

Smith has been TRUMPED!


294 posted on 06/13/2023 8:45:17 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good--Facts is Facts)
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To: Lakeside Granny

Won’t open, cookie wall

Thanks for trying

I Love ne some Kash Patel...


295 posted on 06/13/2023 8:56:20 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good--Facts is Facts)
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To: Rusty0604; KC Burke
The grand jury didn't have to be told anything except the facts that support the indictment. It's a one sided case to get an indictment. No defense lawyers or even requirement to share exculpatory evidence.

The Clinton case came from Judicial Watch suing trying to get access to the tapes he had in his sock drawer. An Obama appointed judge shut them down saying, under the Presidential Records Act, Clinton as president could take whatever he wanted and it's not reviewable by DOJ or the National Archives.

They've tried to carefully thread this case against Trump to avoid the Presidential Records Act (civil law)or avoid getting the living ex-presidents (and others) in trouble. That shows just how political this case is. It's not by accident they went with the Espionage Act (criminal law).

I do believe he's at risk with this indictment compared to the NY case. The best strategy is a political one, not necessarily a legal one. There's lots of things to throw at the wall because nothing like this has been litigated before in the USA.

Let's hope it stays with the same judge and stays in South FL. He might do well with a jury where, if they all voted in 2020, 5 out of 12 likely voted Trump. Lots of Cubans and Venezuelans who don't like regimes indicting their political opponents or critics.

You can't argue for jury nullification--the jury decide this should not have have been brought so acquits him--but it's probably his best opportunity if it goes to trial. Could be a hung jury. Would DOJ retry him?

Yes he could be sentenced to hundreds of years in prison but there's no minimum sentence guidelines for any of these charges. He could be found guilty and get no time.

It's expected he'll be charged in Fulton County, GA, (Atlanta) over the 2020 election call with the Secretary of State and whatever was being done here to "find" votes to close the gap. Obviously the entire call got released and the forewoman of the grand jury made that ridiculous press tour which is unhelpful to the prosecution.

I don't really see how this stuff hurts him given what's gone before. There's little trust in the DOJ at this point. We've seen so many lies, hoaxes, slanderous claims, false leaks, actual conspiracies against Trump / MAGA it's become a farce.

What did they say about Bill Clinton? He'd get anyway with anything short of a live boy or dead girl in his bed?

I hope Republicans win decisively in 2024 and we can really clean this mess up.

296 posted on 06/13/2023 9:39:47 PM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: conservative98

“Jack Smith cited the Hillary case in the indictment.”

He blew it, that will be good for Trump defense as you noted.


297 posted on 06/13/2023 11:04:53 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good--Facts is Facts)
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To: cableguymn
I understand that but that’s what they want. Why I don’t know.

I heard some people talking about this on Fox News yesterday afternoon. They say the reason is the calendar and the optics. For calendar reasons, they want the trial before the election to taint President Trump's chances, because they're afraid that if Trump wins he could pardon himself.

The window of opportunity for the trial is very tight. President Trump is scheduled to be in New York in December for pre-trial motions for the Bragg case. That trial is supposed to begin in March 2024.

The Fulton County Georgia case hasn't resulted in an indictment yet, but one is expected no earlier than late August or September. If they indict Trump in September, it will take about nine months before a trial would happen, which would put it around June or July of 2024.

This would mean that the federal case in Miami would have to happen in the September to October range or else it would have to be after the election.

The optics problem is that President Trump has argued that these indictments are politically motivated and he's done nothing wrong. Most people agree that the Bragg case in New York is a real stretch of the law, since Bragg is trying to tie a federal case (the Stormy Daniels NDA) that the feds declined to prosecute with his case (which is based on acts that exceeded the statute of limitations) to elevate the charges against Trump to felonies.

Following this is the Georgia case where the prosecutors there are arguing that when Trump said "find 11,780 votes" to Georgia Secretary of State Brad that he was ordering Raffensperger, he was committing voter fraud and tampering with the election. President Trump argues that he wasn't telling them to make up votes, but to use the mail-in vote-counting process (like signature verification and vote count observations) to either keep Democrats from improperly rejecting Republican votes or to use the same tactics to screen Democrat votes. Republicans have been historically weak on this front, allowing Democrats to run roughshod over Republicans -- especially in the dead of night on November 8, 2020.

The problem for prosecutors of the Mar-a-Lago case is that it would immediately follow these two cases that, by all appearances, seem to be politically motivated and weak on the merits. The prosecutors fear that if their case immediately follows the other two, that the jury pool would be so fed up with the appearance of hounding President Trump with false charges that ultimately failed in court, that they would side with Trump in this case, too, especially after seeing how the feds let Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden off, as well as the Clinton administration's Sandy Berger who actually stole documents out of the National Archives by stuffing them down his pants.

This is why the Miami prosecutors want a speedy trial, so then can get theirs wedged somewhere in the middle of the other two in an attempt to weaken the optics that are against them.

-PJ

298 posted on 06/13/2023 11:08:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Lakeside Granny

Thanks, it opened just fine on my phone
👍
It was great, I watched the whole thing on TV in real time.


299 posted on 06/13/2023 11:09:51 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good--Facts is Facts)
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To: Political Junkie Too

They want Trump so busy with trials so he won’t have time to campaign.

How foolish.

The trials will bring him more votes than campaign events!

The dems are so smart they are dumb.

Cutting off their noses to spite their faces lol.


300 posted on 06/13/2023 11:15:55 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good--Facts is Facts)
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