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One in four people who have had cannabis-induced psychosis develop schizophrenia
Science Norway ^ | 6/12/2023 | Anne Lise Stranden

Posted on 06/12/2023 11:25:45 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan

“The increased risk of getting schizophrenia after drug-related psychosis is even higher than what we find in first-degree relatives of those who have been given the diagnosis,” Bramness says.

First-degree relatives are parents and children.

The risk of being diagnosed with the malady for sons and daughters of a sick mother or father is "only" five to ten per cent.

In other words, there is no other risk factor for schizophrenia that is higher than related to drug-induced psychoses.

Trauma, infections and moving to another country are other known risk factors for schizophrenia, but these increase the risk to a much smaller degree.

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To: irishjuggler

It’s not a “causal relationship” if there is no if/then. Contributory, maybe, but not causal.


21 posted on 06/12/2023 1:49:31 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Right Wing Vegan

I know of two people that this supposedly happened to and it was in the 80’s.

One was the brother of a girl I worked with when I was a teen and another is the brother of one of my mother’s good friends.

I don’t know much beyond they put the blame on smoking tons of weed.


22 posted on 06/12/2023 1:58:15 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: dware

Had the reverse issue with a person who was quite easy to get along with until the person decided to switch from tobacco to pot.
After a little while on pot the paranoia kicked in and quickly consumed the person’s life.
Eventually this person attacked me, tried to blind and kill me because of all these fantasies.
Nope, never going to have anything to do with a dope head again, and wouldn’t have if I had known she was going to violate our agreement by using it.


23 posted on 06/12/2023 2:12:45 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: NobleFree
The connection may be due to

Got excited by the speculation part did you?

24 posted on 06/12/2023 2:35:02 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Conservatism's last hope, last recourse, in fact last expedient, against the libertarian hordes.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

My youngest sister lives in minnesota which recently legalized schizophrenia, I mean smoking marijuana. She is happy she can grow 8 plants for herself. She smokes cigarettes and drinks to get drunk whenever she has money. She has done all three since a teenager.
She always worked part time as she cannot handle a full time job. She is quick to get angry and talks nonsense at times. I figure when she gets older I will end up putting her in homecare for crazy people...
The democrats love marijuana as it will cause people to become dependent on the democrat party.


25 posted on 06/12/2023 3:14:35 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: gundog

The level of denial of the negative mental-health consequences of this stupid drug is absolutely stunning. And pretty tragic, actually, for the teens that wreck their brains with this crap.

The typical drinker says, “Yes, this is bad for my liver, but I enjoy it.” The typical tobacco smoker says, “Yes, this is bad for my lungs, but I enjoy it.” The typical cannabis user, on other hand, denies any and all negative effects on their harmless wonder drug.


26 posted on 06/12/2023 3:25:08 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler

My relatives who are schizophrenic today were self-medicating in high school with alcohol, pot and cigarettes. Cigarettes are still used relatives today, since cigarettes help decrease the stress of mental illness. Mental illness involved T-cell exhaustion and patients need rest, good nutrition, exercise and no smoking. It is a horrible disease.


27 posted on 06/12/2023 3:34:51 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: irishjuggler

Really? Never met a pot smoker that denied lung damage or potential mental health issues.


28 posted on 06/12/2023 4:19:25 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: irishjuggler
denies any and all negative effects on their harmless wonder drug

Mental issues are the most difficult to be aware of or admit to. At least alcohol and cocaine let you know they are kicking your &%%. With weed it's as easy for a weedsucker to be unaware of changes in their brain as it is for them to believe their drug cures cancer.

29 posted on 06/12/2023 4:21:15 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Conservatism's last hope, last recourse, in fact last expedient, against the libertarian hordes.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

“Got excited by the speculation part did you?”

I noted the existence of at least two possible explanations for the observed correlation.


30 posted on 06/12/2023 4:22:29 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Known for more than 50 years, but you point these facts out and the pro pot folks call you a liar


31 posted on 06/12/2023 4:23:29 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: minnesota_bound

“drinks to get drunk whenever she has money.”

But it’s the weed that’s the problem.


32 posted on 06/12/2023 4:24:16 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

“Alcohol-induced psychosis presented the least risk.”


33 posted on 06/12/2023 4:25:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Conservatism's last hope, last recourse, in fact last expedient, against the libertarian hordes.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Nothing was said about her experiencing any kind of psychosis.


34 posted on 06/12/2023 4:28:46 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: HamiltonJay
Known for more than 50 years, but you point these facts out and the pro pot folks call you a liar

Their brain mutilating drug, subversives' propaganda, and counterculture indoctrination, have them thoroughly brainwashed.

35 posted on 06/12/2023 4:31:26 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Conservatism's last hope, last recourse, in fact last expedient, against the libertarian hordes.)
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To: gundog

There are such deniers on this very thread.


36 posted on 06/12/2023 4:33:40 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: NobleFree

Nothing was said to deny it may happen in the future.


37 posted on 06/12/2023 4:35:47 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Conservatism's last hope, last recourse, in fact last expedient, against the libertarian hordes.)
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To: piasa

Pot doesn’t satisfy the cravings of nicotine withdrawal. Nobody just switches from one to the other, I suspect. I’ve known a couple of people that could quit drinking if they were smoking weed. It was a net gain for them. Sounds like she was jydt a nutter, all along.


38 posted on 06/12/2023 4:41:22 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: irishjuggler
I was in a relationship with a lady who developed schizophrenia within a few months of experimentation with marijuana. She had relatively clear periods of time where she was lucid even though she always heard voices. It was painful to watch her suffer and be unable to help, despite all the magic of love and encouragement. She just got worse and had longer and longer catatonic episodes and eventually developed paranoia even about me that could not be reasoned away.

I can't see how anyone would willingly take even a 1 in 10 million risk of developing this illness. And you have to think: if this drug can bring on the most severe mental illness there is, then what about less severe and less readily detectable changes in the brain? That's not play time.

One of the more tragic things about her is that she even let pro weed propaganda change her from her original view that marijuana could have caused her illness, to the notion that she could self-treat with it, and resumed using it!! That was after our relationship eneded. I understand she has gotten to the point of being hospitalized for months at a time.

39 posted on 06/12/2023 4:48:34 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (Conservatism's last hope, last recourse, in fact last expedient, against the libertarian hordes.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

It’s very sad. I witnessed the same thing with a teen neighbor. Kid was normal, played on the high-school baseball team, attended one of the most prestigious local private high schools (one of Steve Jobs’ kids went there for a while). Kid was absolutely normal, very smart, but he developed a weed habit. Eventually became a dealer. After a few years of use, paranoia and psychosis overtook him. He was convinced that everyone was spying on him and stealing his thoughts. Stories like this are laughed off or shrugged off by the weed crowd. They’ll tell you that my neighbor was always mentally ill and was just self-medicating with weed. Or he would have become mentally ill anyway even if he’d been eating Cheetos instead of smoking pot. Except that he wasn’t... and wouldn’t have.

At what point will the tide turn and the very real damage caused by this drug be widely recognized and admitted? Personally, I think that weed would have to get really corporate first (and that would require federal legalization)... and then when there are deep enough pockets worth picking, the products liability lawyers would smell blood in the water and show up and make what will ultimately be a slam-dunk case against this stupid drug.


40 posted on 06/12/2023 5:21:29 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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