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Before he was the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski was a mind-control test subject
Washington Post ^

Posted on 06/11/2023 5:51:53 AM PDT by FarCenter

Ted Kaczynski, the anarchist and so-called Unabomber who died in a federal prison medical facility on Saturday, transformed from boy genius to terrorist, going from a star mathematics student to a feared assailant who targeted academics, scientists and industrialized society as a whole.

Kaczynski entered Harvard University as a 16-year-old on a scholarship, after skipping the sixth and 11th grades. It was there that he was subjected to an experiment run by Harvard psychologist Henry A. Murray that was backed by the Central Intelligence Agency. Though he graduated with a mathematics degree, later completing a doctorate in the field before becoming a professor, questions remain over whether — or to what extent — he was affected by the experiment, which reportedly involved mock interrogations in which participants’ beliefs were harshly disparaged.

Murray’s study was widely reported to be part of a CIA program code-named Project MK-Ultra, inspired by the use of mind-control techniques on U.S. prisoners of war in Korea by the Soviet Union, China and North Korea. The program sought to understand how to control subjects’ minds, sometimes using substances such as LSD, according to a document the CIA made publicly available in 2018. (There has not been evidence to suggest LSD or similar substances were used at Harvard on Kaczynski.)

“The project attempted to produce a perfect truth drug for use in interrogating suspected Soviet spies during the Cold War,” the document says. “And generally to explore any other possibilities of mind control.”

CIA Director Richard Helms ordered the destruction of many files related to MK-Ultra in 1973. Nevertheless, Kaczynski disclosed some of his apparent involvement in the study in correspondence from prison with the professor Alston Chase, who later wrote a book about the Unabomber.

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To: Clutch Martin

“He should have been well hanged immediately after sentencing.”


It was a deal struck between the FBI and TK’s brother that he would serve life in prison without parole...


21 posted on 06/11/2023 7:01:22 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I’ve heard about that. I’ve heard he was socially awkward and had been rejected by females.


22 posted on 06/11/2023 7:03:58 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: dangermouse

I wonder if they kidnapped members of congress or were they just naturally deceitful betrayers?


23 posted on 06/11/2023 7:04:09 AM PDT by dragonblustar (They have conquered Satan by the blood of the Lamb and by their testimony….. Revelation 12:11)
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To: FarCenter

I believe that more than a few mass murderers have been controlled by the deep state.


24 posted on 06/11/2023 7:13:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: csvset

Thanks for the mention of MkUltra, I think. Just spent over a half hour reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra and checking the sources links. Unbelievable.

These are the forces aligned against Trump.


25 posted on 06/11/2023 7:19:09 AM PDT by bleach (If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.)
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To: csvset

Gottlieb has two interesting factors:

1. Late 1960s, in Vietnam....he ran some type of experimental program on jailed anti-gov’t Vietnamese folks....involving mind-control. Other than knowing the program existed....there’s virtually no records of what happened or what was being developed (other than mind-control).

2. He ran some type of 1980s program in ‘remote viewing’. Nothing much from this project is known because of destroyed records.

If we went down a news list of 2022, state by state, we can probably find a minimum of 100 mind-control episodes probably occurred.


26 posted on 06/11/2023 7:46:17 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: waterhill

Leonard Cohen…my mother-in-law always said “music to slit your wrists by” 😂


27 posted on 06/11/2023 7:52:59 AM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: Seruzawa

“Mind control experimentation still goes on.”

Only now it also contains a certain amount of highly improved physical activity like waterboarding. Before it was the iron maiden, thumb screws or the rack. All are used to get your attention and give you a choice of complying with their wishes or suffering pain. Pain is fear, and at some point, compliance in time or death is achieved. And at that same point death is a friend rather than an enemy.

wy69


28 posted on 06/11/2023 8:18:23 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: FarCenter

What We Know About the CIA’s Midcentury Mind-Control Project
Project MKUltra began on this day in 1953 and continued for years

April 13, 2017
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-we-know-about-cias-midcentury-mind-control-project-180962836/


29 posted on 06/11/2023 9:15:00 AM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to incompetence-stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: dangermouse

During the Cold War, the death of or injury to a small number of Americans was not an obstacle to carrying out some project deemed necessary for National Security.

A government accustomed to sending 10s of thousands of conscripts to their death in Europe, Asia, Korea or Vietnam is not going to be overly concerned about a few hundred more.

It was also in the business of conducting atmospheric nuclear testing as well.


30 posted on 06/11/2023 10:11:45 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: ZinGirl

Even ‘Hallelujah’? I love that song.


31 posted on 06/11/2023 10:35:47 AM PDT by waterhill (Stop waiting for the right time, time is not waiting for you.)
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To: BBB333

“It was a deal struck between the FBI and TK’s brother that he would serve life in prison without parole...”

Interesting


32 posted on 06/11/2023 11:44:05 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: mjp

“according to a 2021 study, Kaczynski’s manifesto “is a synthesis of ideas from three well-known academics: French philosopher Jacques Ellul, British zoologist Desmond Morris, and American psychologist Martin Seligman”

Desmond Morris was the author of The Naked Ape, that was practically required reading in this early 70s. I thought it was a very informative read.


33 posted on 06/11/2023 11:49:19 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: ansel12

Your former roommate may not have told you, but if he was still a minor, parental consent was needed. Why would any parent “offer their child up” to a government agency for experiments?
What do they gain from it, since tbey probably couldn’t even brag about it to the grandparents during Thanksgiving Dinner?

I will answer my own question with this: maybe one of his parents was experimented upon some decades earlier.
The family and the DNA had already been vetted.


34 posted on 06/11/2023 11:50:43 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: ansel12

“Pure LSD was not easy to get after the late 1960s, by 1970 or so LSD was going downhill in quality.”

Sandoz was the lab that manufactured ampules of LSD, I have heard that it was fairly easy to come by but it was so pure that dosing was often overdone and many people suffered terrible hallucinationgenic experiences as a result.

Larry Hagman the actor swore up and down that if it wasn’t for LSD he probably would have died an alcoholic because LSD was used as a drug to counter the desire to consume alcohol.

There’s been some talk as of late regarding the use of hallucinogenics for treating certain mental disorders, I’m sure they would be at a therapeutic dose rather than an overdose but, there is no prophylaxis fi3r LSD, yet it it is probably still contracted for very limited production rates and used strictly in research.


35 posted on 06/11/2023 11:59:49 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: lee martell

He would have been of age when he was doing it, he was about 10 years older than me.


36 posted on 06/11/2023 12:19:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: FarCenter

Never heard of MK Ultra by the CIA until recently. After viewing the dvd or prime of Manhunt: Unabomber, the graphic scenes and explanations would make anyone turn against the government and especially the CIA and academia like Harvard. Totally barbaric and inhuman, and how much did they care about the US if they created a mentally ill killer out of their experiments?


37 posted on 06/11/2023 3:23:39 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: waterhill

And my tagline.


38 posted on 06/11/2023 3:25:40 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: frank ballenger

Nice.


39 posted on 06/11/2023 3:41:38 PM PDT by waterhill (Stop waiting for the right time, time is not waiting for you.)
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To: waterhill

Especially that one.


40 posted on 06/11/2023 6:27:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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