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1 posted on 06/10/2023 9:47:01 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

I hate to say it, but yes, he was.


2 posted on 06/10/2023 9:47:22 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Kazan
Spot on article. Describes the people amd the motivations perfectly.
3 posted on 06/10/2023 9:50:33 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: Kazan

Yeah, I hate to say it...but....considering how evil and corrupt (how leftist) we now know the US Government, under the control of the Democrats, has been and now is....

all that propaganda against Russia and their KGB seems a bit silly.....and hypocritical.


4 posted on 06/10/2023 9:51:54 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Kazan

They run that Conservative label by the Republican base and it works like a charm. They can keep it. I’m an independent American citizen and that’s the only label I need


6 posted on 06/10/2023 9:53:25 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Kazan

Trump was doing a great job of militarily cornering Russia while doing the sweet talk on the surface.

Those of us who watched as the media praised Obama while he was actually weakening NATO and our military in Europe, were greatly relieved to see Trump building NATO back up and strengthening our military power and positioning against Russia in Europe, while of course, the media pretended he was doing the opposite.


7 posted on 06/10/2023 9:53:44 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Kazan

Every major political scandal of the last 10 years has had some connection to Ukraine - the DNC server, Russia-gate, many of its players, Trump’s fake impeachment, the Vindmans, of course Pedo Joe’s meddling in their politics, Hunter’s payoffs, etc. etc.

Ukraine is a black box and base for Democrat, deep-state corruption.

It was never about Ukraine’s “freedom” - its about maintaining that power, control and money-flow over Ukraine, Europe and globalist institutions

The zeepers here screaming about Ukraine’s “freedom” are feeding the malignancy of the US deep-state cancer that is destroying the USA.


8 posted on 06/10/2023 9:55:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kazan

I don’t know what articles like this are supposed to mean.

Trump warned Europe not to rely on Russia and he was laughed at.

The premise of this article is true re Russia, China, N. Korea.

But it is those countries that choose to remain adversarial and backward domestically.

How long has Putin been in power?

That ain’t right.

Of course Trump is right that Russia could be a normal country as could China etc…


9 posted on 06/10/2023 9:56:28 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kazan

Having worked in the IC, I can tell you most of the knuckle heads at the top were also formed/molded in a Cold War era and the perceptions persist even though the times have changed.

Furthermore, it ALWAYS goes back to one simple fact, all the leaders of these organizations are hand picked and political hacks. All of them.

They then in turn hand pick the senior folks from the bureaucracy around them and the folks know what the zeitgeist is. If the politician says climate change is real and important, they’ll weave that crap into their national threat assessments too. If they say LGBTQIA is important, that will pop up somewhere. If you say there is no threat posed by Islam, it’ll suddenly disappear from the radar by changing definitions and creating all new categories. If you say homo is ok, that won’t be an issue anymore and the FBI will stop collecting any metrics which could show a link between pedophilia and homosexuality, circa 1994. When you have Obama in office, suddenly vets, and white supremacists become a huge threat...

The IC doesn’t define the threats and rationally leverage resources against them. Rather they see whatever threat the senior leaders want to see and then find the proof that it’s real. It’s WAY to political-

Ask yourself this, to keep it simple for you, what Trump business partner, family member, or personal friend has not been scrutinized to the extreme? Why is that? Who do you think has more influence on federal law enforcement and the IC? Neutrality, objectivity? BS.


10 posted on 06/10/2023 10:12:00 AM PDT by Red6
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Trump Was Right About Russia!
American Thinker ^ | June 10, 2023 | Matthew G. Andersson
Posted on 6/10/2023, 9:47:01 AM by Kazan

This Washington, D.C. establishment is dedicated to maintaining the posture of Cold War relationships and interpretations. Why? Because even though the “Establishment” is often deemed conservative, in reality it is not — its members are inward looking, progressive in their self-interests, and casually opportunistic. They will do anything if it perpetuates their careers, and provides security to them professionally and personally. That means that enemies must be constantly created and maintained because fear and uncertainty are their currency.

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America and Russia could be allies and natural business partners, or at least stable competitors. But the Cold War mentality of the Establishment in Washington makes a living off fighting, fear, and friction. It also of course represents U.S. corporations and other interests that see Russia as a natural resource prize; that was largely the excitement of 1990 during Glasnost: Western interests could grab Russia’s prized resources in minerals, oil, gas, agriculture, and certain engineering and manufacturing, and engage in an effective hostile takeover. Trump wasn’t immune to some of these interests either, but his overall approach was engagement, and instead the U.S. is following a dangerous path of ignorance and escalation.

Trump was actually a peace president, including in his correct understanding of the dangers of a nuclear-armed Iran. The Biden administration is by contrast, going down a dead-end policy path, facilitating a three-pronged global risk consisting of support for radical Islam, a superpower conflict with Russia, and U.S. domestic civil war. None of these would have existed or existed in the same manner and to the same degree under a Trump presidency.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com …

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/06/trump_was_right_about_russia.html

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4159864/posts


11 posted on 06/10/2023 10:12:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have no shortage of experts, who state things as fact, but really have no idea!)
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Trump Was Right About Russia!
American Thinker ^ | June 10, 2023 | Matthew G. Andersson
Posted on 6/10/2023, 9:47:01 AM by Kazan

This Washington, D.C. establishment is dedicated to maintaining the posture of Cold War relationships and interpretations. Why? Because even though the “Establishment” is often deemed conservative, in reality it is not — its members are inward looking, progressive in their self-interests, and casually opportunistic. They will do anything if it perpetuates their careers, and provides security to them professionally and personally. That means that enemies must be constantly created and maintained because fear and uncertainty are their currency.

###

America and Russia could be allies and natural business partners, or at least stable competitors. But the Cold War mentality of the Establishment in Washington makes a living off fighting, fear, and friction. It also of course represents U.S. corporations and other interests that see Russia as a natural resource prize; that was largely the excitement of 1990 during Glasnost: Western interests could grab Russia’s prized resources in minerals, oil, gas, agriculture, and certain engineering and manufacturing, and engage in an effective hostile takeover. Trump wasn’t immune to some of these interests either, but his overall approach was engagement, and instead the U.S. is following a dangerous path of ignorance and escalation.

Trump was actually a peace president, including in his correct understanding of the dangers of a nuclear-armed Iran.

The Biden administration is by contrast, going down a dead-end policy path, facilitating a three-pronged global risk consisting of support for radical Islam, a superpower conflict with Russia, and U.S. domestic civil war. None of these would have existed or existed in the same manner and to the same degree under a Trump presidency.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com …

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/06/trump_was_right_about_russia.html

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4159864/posts


14 posted on 06/10/2023 10:14:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have no shortage of experts, who state things as fact, but really have no idea!)
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I believe that in the 1990’s when the conditions of the USSR break-up were being settled there was a desire for real peace on both sides. Subsequent NATO leadership blew it.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-h


22 posted on 06/10/2023 11:21:45 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: Kazan
Trump was actually a peace president, including in his correct understanding of the dangers of a nuclear-armed Iran.

A client state of Russia - empowered and enabled by Russia.

Trump was indeed correct about Russia but certainly not in the way this author claims. He was much more aggressive and proactive with Russia and headed them off, warned Europe and in particularly Germany the dangers of the Nord Stream pipeline and becoming dependent on Russia for energy - which is why his administration denied it and Biden approved it. It is Biden, like Obama before him, that treated Russia with kid gloves and Russia seized the opportunity that they did not have with stronger administrations like Trump.

It was Obama who said "The 1980s are calling and they want their foreign policy back" - certainly not Trump. This article is so nonsensical and spinning an alternate history - this commentator is trying to spin this into a pro-Russia narrative. Russia and the US were not allies, and Trump certainly did not treat them as such. He treated them like the real threat that they were...not seeking hostility and trying to seek peace, but it was indeed an approach of peace through strength.

25 posted on 06/10/2023 12:09:30 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Russia was on path to integrating with the world and then Putin dragged it back to the Soviet era. Putin’s problem was that he didn’t have the industrial base and output of Eastern Europe to parasitize.

Maybe after Putin gets killed Russia can get back on path.


27 posted on 06/10/2023 12:24:59 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Kazan

Trump was right and 81 million voters were wrong.


36 posted on 06/10/2023 3:54:51 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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The point was to keep Russia and China from teaming up against us. We — or rather, our rulers — blew it. Now we are wasting money on a war that could have been prevented, and China is picking up client states around the world.


38 posted on 06/10/2023 4:07:23 PM PDT by x
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To: Kazan

The point was to keep Russia and China from teaming up against us. We — or rather, our rulers — blew it. Now we are wasting money on a war that could have been prevented, and China is picking up client states around the world.


39 posted on 06/10/2023 4:07:24 PM PDT by x
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To: Kazan

The point was to keep Russia and China from teaming up against us. We — or rather, our rulers — blew it. Now we are wasting money on a war that could have been prevented, and China is picking up client states around the world.


40 posted on 06/10/2023 4:07:24 PM PDT by x
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