Posted on 05/20/2023 3:03:51 PM PDT by delta7
The so far largest battle of the 21st century ended today.
Bakhmut has fallen. Artyomovsk (the Russian/Soviet name of the city) has been liberated. This was announced today by the titular leader of the Wagner forces, Yevgeny Prigozhin, in a video posted on Telegram.
Why the Ukrainian leadership had decided to hold onto the city even months after the situation there was already in its disfavor is beyond me. The fight was decided by the numerical superiority of Russian artillery fire and the Ukraine had never a chance to top that.
The losses there for the Ukrainians amounted to 300 to 500 men per day over that last 5 months. That sums up to a total of 60,000 casualties. Ten days ago Ukrainian units, including the fascist Azov brigade, rolled up the Russian flanks north and south of Bakhmut to allow the Ukrainian troops in the city to flee west. That attack alone, only one or 2 kilometer deep, cost them some 1,600+ men and some 50+ armored vehicles.
On the Russian side the fighting in the city was largely done by Wagner troops. But they were never able to do it on their own. Russian military intelligence, artillery and logistics all played an important role in the fight.
The city has been destroyed but it will continued to exist as it is an important logistical hub with several rail and road connections running through it.
Mariupol, which fell/was liberated a year ago, is already being rebuild. In a month or two, when the frontline has moved away from Artyomovsk, rebuilding will start there too.
For a moment now the front line in Ukraine seems all around relative quit.
It is not clear to me when or where a new operational move will start.…
The Moon ( minus posters commentary) has an exceptional record posting NON western news, links always provided. “Projection” sometimes flawed, but reality is always reported.The Western MSM should take notes.
Why do so many people have an interest in Ukraine losing?
“Bakhmut Has Fallen - Artyomovsk Has Been Liberated”
Good to hear that they threw off the yoke of FASCIST occupation!!!
Because the media, Pope, Biden and others have told us that Zelensky and the Ukrainians were so pure that they would mop up the area with the Russians.
True despite what propagandists like UMC Rev Mom claim.
I’d like for the stupid war to be over with. We’re spending billions of dollars on this fiasco.
“Why do so many people have an interest in Ukraine losing?”
The same people who have sights on America losing?
Thanks, comrade.
“Why do so many people have an interest in Ukraine losing?”
Like Afghanistan, once Ukraine hitched to the Neocons, their days were numbered. The only question is how many have to be to killed before the inevitable outcome occurs, and the sooner that day happens, the less dead Ukrainians.
virtue signal
If you have been paying attention to the latest developments. Ukraine is slowly pulling out to encircle Bakhmut and cut off the only soldiers Russia has that fights without running backwards.
At least that is the plan. Whether or not they can do it is another story.
Russia has actually been holding back, IMO. Zelensky has been circulating throughout Europe trying to collect the big bucks. Bergoglio (very leftist, probably on the side of the Ukraine) offered to negotiate and Zelensky visited the Vatican and said “we don’t want to negotiate, we need money.”
Since Ukraine under Biden had already violated their earlier agreement with Russia, this was not going to happen. The agreement would have protected the majority ethnic Russians and Russian speakers who had voted in a referendum to change to be under Russian control or at least for tolerance by Ukraine but were attacked anyway by Ukraine and its Nazi forces.
At some point, the Bear is going to get tired of being poked by Biden. Really tired. And we’re all going to suffer.
Why do you care when we are paying for it? We want it over and the US to get the hell out of Ukraine for good.
There is nothing for anyone to win there. No matter what, both proxies are not for freedom. Those people haven’t been fighting for themselves. They are human pawns fighting against Russia for western interests.
All those people dead and this all could have been avoided over a year ago.
Because they are Nazi dominated, and very close friends with the party in Washington DC, and the WEF.
why do so many people, our government included, have an interest in event in Ukraine at all?
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