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Debt ceiling: Support for 14th amendment solution mounts on Capitol Hill
yahoo.com ^ | May 18, 2023 at 12:45 PM EDT | Ben W.

Posted on 05/19/2023 1:15:51 PM PDT by entropy12

Ben Werschkul·Washington Correspondent

The support on Capitol Hill for what was once a fringe legal theory is growing by the hour as the debt ceiling talks head into their final days.

On Thursday, a group of of 11 progressive senators led by Sens. Tina Smith (D-MN), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Bernie Sanders (I-VT) released a new letter to President Biden calling on him to prepare to cancel the debt ceiling by invoking the 14th amendment.

The increased adoption of an idea that could roil markets is a reflection of growing Democratic anxieties that the White House could be preparing for deep compromise as ongoing direct negotiations with representatives of Speaker Kevin McCarthy continue.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 14th; 14thamendment; amendment; debt; fourteenthamendment; progressives
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To: Publius; ro_dreaming
entropy12: This section seems to forbid reparations, doesn't it?

ro_dreaming: Correct. To allow federal reparations, the 14th Amendment would have to be repealed or modified.

Not just federal reparations -- state reparations are also prohibited:

"But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay... any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void."

I'm not a lawyer, but I would guess that this applies to cities and counties as well (since they don't have any semblance of separate sovereignty under our system, unlike the states and the Federal government).
61 posted on 05/19/2023 9:03:01 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: Alvin Diogenes

That’s my guess as well, and while I’m not a lawyer either, I did once stay at a Holiday Inn Express.


62 posted on 05/19/2023 10:17:14 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: windsorknot

Stop Raising It! I don’t get to raise mine, you don’t get to raise yours, the states don’t get to raise theirs. Why is it everyone has to live within their means but the federal government? Just say NO!


63 posted on 05/20/2023 5:59:44 AM PDT by Hipshot 6 (Hipshot 6, Out)
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To: entropy12

everyone knows how long a senator is in office for.. I am wondering just why these 3 commiedems feel they have that right is all


64 posted on 05/20/2023 11:33:49 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46

They feel more secure to speak their mind after getting elected for 6 years. McConnell never said anything bad about Trump until he got re-elected for 6 more years.


65 posted on 05/20/2023 3:27:21 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Hipshot 6

Because federal govt is the only one with money printing machine. If states could print money, I have no doubt they would spend like drunken sailors.


66 posted on 05/20/2023 3:29:30 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: entropy12
I am so happy. Now I can afford a week's groceries. Thank you, Democrats! Thank you!


67 posted on 05/20/2023 3:41:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: entropy12

“the public debt of the United States, authorized by law...shall not be questioned.”

This would be a public debt NOT authorized by law, so it can not be allowed.


68 posted on 05/20/2023 3:44:12 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: entropy12

Ok I get where you are going.


69 posted on 05/20/2023 3:53:33 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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