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REVEALED: Wagner chief offered to help UKRAINE by giving up Russian troop locations if Kyiv withdrew forces surrounding his fighters in Bakhmut, 'Jack the Dripper' Pentagon leaks say
Daily Mail ^ | 5/14/2023 | Andrea Cavallier

Posted on 05/15/2023 5:33:54 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

The head of the Wagner mercenary forces offered to help Ukraine by giving up Russian troop locations if Kyiv withdrew its forces from Bakhmut, leaked Pentagon documents suggest.

Yevgeny Prigozhin in January said he would tell the intelligence service the positions of Vladimir Putin's soldiers, the Washington Post reported, citing the leaked 'Jack the Dripper' papers. Ukraine rejected the offer amid distrust of Prigozhin.

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The leaked documents also revealed that in January Volodymyr Zelensky plotted to 'conduct strikes in Russia' while moving ground troops into enemy territory to 'occupy unspecified Russian border cities'.

In a February meeting with Deputy Prime Minister Yuliya Svrydenko, Zelensky also suggested that Ukraine 'blow up' the Soviet-built Druzhba pipeline that provides oil to Hungary, the Post reported.

'Zelenskyy highlighted that … Ukraine should just blow up the pipeline and destroy likely Hungarian [Prime Minister] Viktor Orban's industry, which is based heavily on Russian oil,' according to the document.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bakhmut; chechnya; discordleaks; globalistpropaganda; prigozhin; putin; ramzankadyrov; wagner; wagnergroup; yevgenyprigozhin

1 posted on 05/15/2023 5:33:54 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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2 posted on 05/15/2023 5:42:31 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus
Notwithstanding that Prigozhin's proclamations should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt, this other portion is far more concerning:

In a February meeting with Deputy Prime Minister Yuliya Svrydenko, Zelensky also suggested that Ukraine 'blow up' the Soviet-built Druzhba pipeline that provides oil to Hungary, the Post reported.

'Zelenskyy highlighted that … Ukraine should just blow up the pipeline and destroy likely Hungarian [Prime Minister] Viktor Orban's industry, which is based heavily on Russian oil,' according to the document.

I'm sorry, what?

3 posted on 05/15/2023 5:44:38 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Eliminating the most effective military the Russians have by encircling and destroying it is more the plan than handing out freebees.


4 posted on 05/15/2023 5:48:06 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Wagner boss tried to HELP UKRAINE if Zelensky let him flee Bakhmut

https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/1770216/wagner-chief-prigozhin-help-ukraine-leak-dxus


5 posted on 05/15/2023 5:48:54 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

This is probably the biggest explosion of the entire Ukrainian war

The Khmelnytskyi depot must’ve had a massive amount of fuel/ammunition for it to have multiple big recurring explosions pic.twitter.com/rpigK3D4qV— LogKa (@LogKa11) May 13, 2023


6 posted on 05/15/2023 5:49:46 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: marcusmaximus

You’re too late Babyrattle already got paid for posting this earlier.


7 posted on 05/15/2023 5:50:30 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: marcusmaximus

This article was already posted but still worth discussion.

You have to seriously question the validity of this article, think about it would any country allow open treason in a war.

Eric Prince who founded Blackwater is sort of a US equivalent, would anyone have tolerated him saying something similar in the middle of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan


8 posted on 05/15/2023 5:51:05 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: marcusmaximus

Baloney. If our intel doesn’t know where they are then we have big problems.


9 posted on 05/15/2023 5:54:36 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: marcusmaximus

What a joke.

The Ukrainians have continuous live video of the Russian positions.

The precise locations are known. When the time came, the Ukrainians precisely attacked the Russian positions and killed them

Whereas, the Russians have no videos, no anti tank weapons, no decent communications and now, no live soldiers or commanders


10 posted on 05/15/2023 5:55:46 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: JonPreston
What Bryansk doink?


11 posted on 05/15/2023 5:55:56 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: TangoLimaSierra

—”You’re too late Babyrattle already got paid for posting this earlier.”

With all of the “paid posters” onsite, bring up a question.

Are you paid in rubles for your posts, and how do you convert your near-worthless rubles into dollars or any
functioning currency?


12 posted on 05/15/2023 5:56:28 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: marcusmaximus
why is Zelenskyyy doing this?

CHILD ABDUCTION BY UKRAINIAN ARMY !!

◾A 11 year old girl from Bakhmut tells how the "white angels" of the Ukrainian Army kidnapped children at gun point and shoot at civilians being evacuated by Wagner troops:

- They introduced themselves as a kind of military police. And… pic.twitter.com/5BUiDNdYoj— DAVID E (@DAVID_STOIC1) May 14, 2023


13 posted on 05/15/2023 5:56:40 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: TangoLimaSierra
The face of not winning.


14 posted on 05/15/2023 5:58:00 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; JonPreston; TangoLimaSierra

Propaganda specialists ignore this, the other side of the discussion:

Zelensky’s men working hand-in-glove with Russia’s Wagner? Ukrainian Pres’ interview sparks row
5/15/23

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4153324/posts

1/2 Watch Tucker Carlson talk about media (like the Daily Mail).

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1656037032538390530

DailyMail is the place for propaganda (as we can aee below) or at least propaganda directed against Russia, or in favor of Ukraine, or to spin things, and doesn’t seem to deviate from it; Dummies rely on it.

Daily Mail
Ghost of Kyiv ‘is killed’: Ukrainian fighter ace who shot down more than FORTY Russian aircraft ‘dies in battle against overwhelming enemy forces’

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10768131/amp/Ghost-Kyiv-fighter-pilot-killed-shooting-FORTY-Russian-aircraft.html?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#aoh=16804483465020&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-10768131%2FGhost-Kyiv-fighter-pilot-killed-shooting-FORTY-Russian-aircraft.html

2/2 Geniuses, Marcus, will also post articles from Newsweek here at FR with that article citing TASS for key information. I then bring up what TASS also said that day on other topics concerning Ukraine on similar key matters.

I then get LOL’d for bringing up TASS to which I then responded they are an idiot for LOLing me over that because their Newsweek article cites TASS and they essentially can’t have it both ways.

Oh well...


15 posted on 05/15/2023 6:11:03 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...

“Twitter Commentator” Tucker Swanson Carlson?

Oh, how the mighty have fallen…


16 posted on 05/15/2023 6:17:51 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Before this war, people would have been escorted off this forum for posting *and believing* propaganda from the sources you listed. Now, some embrace it.


17 posted on 05/15/2023 6:23:10 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

Yep. Because people lose their objectivity and don’t look at it from all sides which to me leads to a neither pro-Russua or pro-Ukraine position, wanting us out of it and letting Europe grow up and deal with problems in their own gack yard while we pay down our exorbitant debt and secure our own d@mn borders, not others.

The Daily Mail article above doesn’t tell the whole story. 2nd, that genius posted the Newsweek article, it cites TASS on key information, I then go to TASS, which I do not link to, and give him other info from TASS on similar key info. I won’t link to TASS. 3rd, I get LOL’d from bringing up what TASS said.

4th, there’s that and others here attacking the messenger (like HT) and not attacking what they report (as I did going against the Daily Mail’s past report on the Ghost) and it is a also a major problem here.


18 posted on 05/15/2023 6:33:49 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: marcusmaximus
That is the stupid kind of crap you post. You could take a picture every few seconds and get any kind of expression you want. He could have been burping when that one was taken.

A reminder of your allies:

Biden, all the Dems, Hollywood, MSM, Romney, Graham, Cheney, Schwab, Trudeau, Kissinger, Vindman, Boris Johnson and Hillary.

19 posted on 05/15/2023 8:25:47 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: marcusmaximus

That’s a lot of medals on their chests.
Must have been big men back in their day.


Have you heard about the big strong man
He lives in a caravan
Have you heard about the Jeffrey Johnson fight
Oh Lord what a hell of a fight

You can take all the heavyweights you’ve got (What we got?)
We’ve got a lad that can beat the whole lot
He used to work here as a doorman
Now he’s gonna fight George Foreman

That’s my brother, Sylveste (What’s he got?)
A row of forty medals on his chest (Big chest!)
He killed fifty bad men in the West, he knows no rest
Speak of the man (Hell’s fire!), don’t push (Just shove!)
Plenty of room for you and me

He’s got an arm like a leg (Lady’s leg!)
And a punch that would sink a battle ship (Big ship!)
It takes all the army and the navy
To take the bra off George Best

Repeat

He thought he’d take a trip to Italy
He thought that he’d go by sea
Jumped off the harbor in New York
And he swam like a man from Cork
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The Rattlin’ Bog
The Pubcrawlers
The Rattlin’ Bog
The Pubcrawlers
Cupid (Twin Version)
FIFTY FIFTY (피프티피프티)
He saw the Lusitania in distress (What’d he do?)
He put the Lusitania on his chest (Big chest!)
Drank all the water in the sea
And he walked all the way to Italy

That was my brother, Sylveste (What’s he got?)
A row of forty medals on his chest (Big chest!)
He killed fifty bad men in the West, he knows no rest
Speak of the man (Hell’s fire!), don’t push (Just shove!)
Plenty of room for you and me

He’s got an arm like a leg (Lady’s leg!)
And a punch that would sink a battle ship (Big ship!)
It takes all the army and the navy
To take the bra off Mae West


20 posted on 05/16/2023 9:50:13 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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