Posted on 05/15/2023 5:58:32 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
"The Washington Post has deleted a part of an interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which Zelensky responded aggressively when asked about his own military intelligence agents' alleged "dealings" with Russia's Wagner Group.
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1/2 Watch Tucker Carlson talk about media (like the Daily Mail).
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1656037032538390530
DailyMail is the place for propaganda (as we can aee below) or at least propaganda directed against Russia, or in favor of Ukraine, or to spin things, and doesn’t seem to deviate from it; Dummies rely on it.
Daily Mail
Ghost of Kyiv ‘is killed’: Ukrainian fighter ace who shot down more than FORTY Russian aircraft ‘dies in battle against overwhelming enemy forces’
2/2 Geniuses will also post articles from Newsweek here at FR with that article citing TASS for key information. I then bring up what TASS also said that day on other topics concerning Ukraine on similar key matters.
I then get LOL’d for bringing up TASS to which I then responded they are an idiot for LOLing me over that because their Newsweek article cites TASS and they essentially can’t have it both ways.
Oh well...
“Twitter Commentator” Tucker Swanson Carlson?
Oh, how the mighty have fallen...
LOL, Hindustan Times? Okay
You are quick to post here and deflect because post #1 and 2 concerns you and you have fallen.
You are an agit prop artist not concerned with the truth.
Fail. You are attacking the messenger just like others here.
Because you're ridiculous, attacking the DailyMail as the place for propaganda and then posting an article from the staff at the Hindustan Times. Sure, its where we all go to find the truth-Hindustan Times. Okay
There’s alot we don’t know and all sides aren’t being covered.
Massive amount of Propaganda from both sides.
I don’t believe any of it.
Propaganda like Daily Mail.
Tucker Carlson tells it like it is as I podted on thos thread above earlier.
What is a major problem here is trolls abive attacking the messenger when they have no evidence the source (like TASS, RT, HT, etc) should not be believed as this is not a defensible argument, a logical fallacy, and bereft of substance.
I don’t link to TASS because I don’t trust it but like I posted earlier on here I did bring up TASS after I saw a genius here post an article from Newsweek citing TASS and you can see the games shills play here.
Ukraine ping
Prigozhin on (subtitled) video complaining about perfumed princes at Frunze so distant from the men in the trenches, they might as well be in space.
https://nitter.net/NatalkaKyiv/status/1657934437974175744#m
Traditionally, feudal lords viewed their king as just the aristocrat with the biggest private army*. Prigozhin, Kadyrov and other notables in the Russian government may be making private deals with the Ukrainians in order to preserve their personal armies for the succession struggle to come, in the wake of a Russian withdrawal from Ukraine.
* Comparisons have been made between the Russian government and its Mongol overlord many centuries ago, the idea being that the Russian state takes after Mongol despotism. In reality, Mongol states were not despotisms, but loose confederations of tribes and clans. That’s why the Mongol empire fractured relatively quickly, and kept fracturing, to the point that it became vulnerable to Russian and Chinese predation. Its essential atomism could only be held together by a organizational and military genius like Genghis Khan. The day he died, the Mongol empire broke up.
If there’s a foreign analogue to tsarist despotism, it’s China, whose rulers had figured out how to delegate power while keeping the people whom it had authorized to act in its name under control. These measures weren’t perfect, but for the most part they were able to keep ruling houses intact for centuries before either ambitious nobles mounted a successful coup or external enemies managed to topple the ancien regime.
Wrong. You’re an idiot. I pointed out and gave an example of what DM reported on the Ghost, it was bunk, and you can’t figure out the difference in that and what you did.
Now show for this HT article it’s propaganda or be quiet and buzz off
One must remember that Ukrainians and Russians are cut from the same cloth. Meaning outlandish propaganda and bluster to hide weaknesses and failings are SOP. Especially during a war, trust practically nothing either side announces. Lying and corruption are endemic in these twin societies, tied together by a thousand years of history, language, and race.
Right, Putin invaded independent neighboring Ukraine for territorial gain, but somehow according you they are 'cut from the same cloth'. Okay
There is the concept of testimony against interest. If an enemy propaganda outlet admits a setback it is inherently more credible than the usual narrative if triumph.
Hence the interest in Tass.
As a general concept in following the news, read everything, the truth is out there, it just needs the skills of an open source analyst to tease out likely vs unlikely situations.
The similarities far outweigh any differences. Didn’t say that justifies Putin’s invasion. Just that culturally, historically, and linguistically the two are close cousins. Going back to the Kyevan Rus, all the way up through Soviet times.
Every nation in a war. This is not unique to Slavs.
Orwells themes came out, in part, from his service in the BBC in WW2.
Same with Poland, since they are all Slavic countries.
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