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1 posted on 05/15/2023 5:58:32 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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1/2 Watch Tucker Carlson talk about media (like the Daily Mail).

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1656037032538390530

DailyMail is the place for propaganda (as we can aee below) or at least propaganda directed against Russia, or in favor of Ukraine, or to spin things, and doesn’t seem to deviate from it; Dummies rely on it.

Daily Mail
Ghost of Kyiv ‘is killed’: Ukrainian fighter ace who shot down more than FORTY Russian aircraft ‘dies in battle against overwhelming enemy forces’

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10768131/amp/Ghost-Kyiv-fighter-pilot-killed-shooting-FORTY-Russian-aircraft.html?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#aoh=16804483465020&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-10768131%2FGhost-Kyiv-fighter-pilot-killed-shooting-FORTY-Russian-aircraft.html


2 posted on 05/15/2023 5:59:21 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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2/2 Geniuses will also post articles from Newsweek here at FR with that article citing TASS for key information. I then bring up what TASS also said that day on other topics concerning Ukraine on similar key matters.

I then get LOL’d for bringing up TASS to which I then responded they are an idiot for LOLing me over that because their Newsweek article cites TASS and they essentially can’t have it both ways.

Oh well...


3 posted on 05/15/2023 6:00:51 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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LOL, Hindustan Times? Okay


5 posted on 05/15/2023 6:03:52 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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If Wagner is working 'with' the Ukrainian that would be a good excuse for Putin... Maybe he can blame the entire war on Yevgeniy Prigozhin... LOL.


8 posted on 05/15/2023 6:11:29 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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Massive amount of Propaganda from both sides.
I don’t believe any of it.


11 posted on 05/15/2023 6:13:58 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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Ukraine ping

Prigozhin on (subtitled) video complaining about perfumed princes at Frunze so distant from the men in the trenches, they might as well be in space.

https://nitter.net/NatalkaKyiv/status/1657934437974175744#m

Traditionally, feudal lords viewed their king as just the aristocrat with the biggest private army*. Prigozhin, Kadyrov and other notables in the Russian government may be making private deals with the Ukrainians in order to preserve their personal armies for the succession struggle to come, in the wake of a Russian withdrawal from Ukraine.

* Comparisons have been made between the Russian government and its Mongol overlord many centuries ago, the idea being that the Russian state takes after Mongol despotism. In reality, Mongol states were not despotisms, but loose confederations of tribes and clans. That’s why the Mongol empire fractured relatively quickly, and kept fracturing, to the point that it became vulnerable to Russian and Chinese predation. Its essential atomism could only be held together by a organizational and military genius like Genghis Khan. The day he died, the Mongol empire broke up.

If there’s a foreign analogue to tsarist despotism, it’s China, whose rulers had figured out how to delegate power while keeping the people whom it had authorized to act in its name under control. These measures weren’t perfect, but for the most part they were able to keep ruling houses intact for centuries before either ambitious nobles mounted a successful coup or external enemies managed to topple the ancien regime.


13 posted on 05/15/2023 6:39:45 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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Of course a nation at war would have an intelligence source(s) (double agents) with “back channel” communications to their enemy(s). It is not a scandal nor unusual nor does it have the meaning the title of the video tries to give it. And of course those in the government leaking such secrets are not doing any favors for their own country and can easly be seen to be acting knowingly against their country. The “journalistic” “scandal” is that none of it - the real events - is a scandal.


26 posted on 05/15/2023 10:41:11 AM PDT by Wuli
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I had wondered if the two were collaborating when Wagner’s leader began saying things more compatible with Ukrainian messaging versus Russia’s, so this seems plausible.


28 posted on 05/15/2023 11:21:11 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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