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Ukraine says counterattacks effective near Bakhmut, after Wagner chief accuses Russian brigade of fleeing
CNN.com ^ | May 11, 2023 | Julia Kesaieva, Tim Lister, Olga Voitovych and Vasco Cotovio

Posted on 05/11/2023 6:37:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Ukrainian forces says they are conducting “effective counterattacks” in the Bakhmut area, in comments that are in line with claims from the leader of the Russian mercenary group Wagner that Kyiv has recaptured some territory.

Yevgeny Prigozhin on Wednesday accused a Russian brigade of abandoning its position in front-line Bakhmut, allowing Ukraine to seize territory. He has repeatedly accused the defense ministry of failing to give his forces the supplies they need.

Prigozhin also accused Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky of lying, after he remarked that Kyiv still needs “a bit more time” before it launches a much anticipated counteroffensive. “Zelensky is lying,” Prigozhin said on his official social media channels Thursday. “The counteroffensive is in full swing.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: aciapropagandapost; agitprop; bakhmut; counterattack; globalistpropaganda; lies; liesandmorelies; meatgrinder; moredeadukrainians; prigozhin; smellslikebullshit; wagner; whatasteamingload
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The worm has turned in Bakhmut. I guess it wasn't over after all.
1 posted on 05/11/2023 6:37:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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2 posted on 05/11/2023 6:41:40 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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--- "I guess it wasn't over after all."

Of the three general perspectives -- 1) pro-Z, 2) pro-P and 3) "not my circus," sides 1 and 2 go at it pretty regularly here in a variety of threads.

My wife and I will see it "over" when it is "over" and whatever the future holds is clearly evident. Before then, the daily salvos fired here in FR are entertaining though.

3 posted on 05/11/2023 6:48:45 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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All the maps I look at see about 500m of a change of positions.

Not really much either way.


4 posted on 05/11/2023 6:50:20 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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Basically some fields


5 posted on 05/11/2023 6:58:01 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Evgeny Prigozhin on the situation in Bakhmut and on the flanks:

“Today, assault groups of PMC “Wagner”, advancing towards the western outskirts of Artemovsk, entered the so-called “Nest”. Only 625 meters remain to the western outskirts.

At the same time, the situation on the flanks develops according to the worst-case scenario. Those territories that were taken with the blood and lives of our comrades for many months, passing tens or hundreds of meters every day, are today thrown without a fight by those who should hold our flank


6 posted on 05/11/2023 7:03:04 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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“Zelensky is lying,” Prigozhin said on his official social media channels Thursday. “The counteroffensive is in full swing.”


Surprise, Prigozhin!! Its only the 2nd stage. When the full offensive begins, it will be the nasty surprise you were warned about.

East from Kharkiv to Luhansk; South to Orikhiv to Melitopol and Berdanysk; South from Kherson to Crimea. All the while the bulk of the RGF is tied up in one tiny insignificant town.


7 posted on 05/11/2023 7:07:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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This is CNN (echo).


8 posted on 05/11/2023 7:39:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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May God bless and keep Ukraine and Zelenskyy


9 posted on 05/11/2023 8:09:53 AM PDT by Sunsong
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Why would God bless that place? What have they been doing to justify that? Please explain.


10 posted on 05/11/2023 8:20:11 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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But last week they took a house in Bakhmut !

But just wait until the ground freezes 11!!

11 posted on 05/11/2023 8:26:47 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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“What have they been doing to justify that?”

Fighting against invading murderers, pedohpiles and other rus nazi psychos.

12 posted on 05/11/2023 8:29:27 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Going to church for one thing, and suffering at the hands of brutal invading non-Christians for another.

Ukranians practice Christianity, Russians don’t, and even Christmas in Russia only attracts about 1% of the people attending that week.

“About half of Ukrainians attend church services, which has hardly changed since 2000. In general, 15.6 per cent of Ukrainians go to church once a week or more often, another 18 per cent once a month and 34.6 per cent only on major holidays.”

“In Russia the Orthodox celebrations of last Christmas, according to police assessments, were attended by 1 million 400 thousand people, equal to 1% of the population. It is a clearly lower figure than that of 5 or 10 years ago; however not everyone accepts it: some say the police didn’t count correctly; in any case, no type of calculation records a presence of the faithful higher than 3%, and in one of the major holidays.”


13 posted on 05/11/2023 8:32:31 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Oh? Child trafficking isn’t rampant in Ukraine? They haven’t murdered their own? They aren’t running labs for the west for developing bio weapons? They aren’t backed by all the world’s most corrupt and evil people? What questions did I forget?


14 posted on 05/11/2023 8:33:27 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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“Child trafficking isn’t rampant in Ukraine? They haven’t murdered their own? They aren’t running labs for the west for developing bio weapons?”

Q told you that ? Sources please.


15 posted on 05/11/2023 8:35:50 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Oh come on! Really? Holy smokes! I’ve been there! Trying to help some of the kids, but these are all military sources and nor can I post them here. What amazes me is you either don’t accept the level of evil that’s been done or just refuse.

I guess knowing that every Ukrainian I’ve met up here that fled blames zelensky for the war. Goes against the narrative eh?

Keep watching CNN. Whatever you do, don’t think for yourself.


16 posted on 05/11/2023 8:38:57 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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“I've been there!”

” but these are all military sources and nor can I post them here.”

So you know that President Putin is fighting against globohomo Nazi deep state CIA, WEF, Schwab, bio labs, COVID and The Great Rest because you have access to the military sources being the US American military veteran ultra MAGA supporter but obviously you can't post them here ?

17 posted on 05/11/2023 8:46:27 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Who said I was American?


18 posted on 05/11/2023 9:09:12 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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Effective in doing what? Getting more Ukrainians feed into the Russian meat grinder and killed? Or keeping taxpayers flowing to Ukraine and laundered to the right places?

There is ZERO chance that Ukraine takes back and holds any territory.

Fools like you are too stupid or dishonest to admit that the Russian strategy of attrition if destroy the NATO army. Feeding more soldiers into areas where there is certain to be mass causalities for the Ukrainians only plays into that strategy.

Go pleasure yourself by looking at a picture of Ron DeSantis.

19 posted on 05/11/2023 9:15:13 AM PDT by Kazan
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Oh it's over - that's just propaganda you're reading.


20 posted on 05/11/2023 10:15:06 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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