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Russia's version of NATO is crumbling, with even some of its closest allies frustrated by Putin's war in Ukraine
CNBC.com ^ | May 9, 2023 | Sinéad Baker

Posted on 05/10/2023 3:27:48 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Russian President Vladimir Putin has his own version of the NATO military alliance, made up of post-Soviet states.

But the Collective Security Treaty Organization, which was never as powerful or cohesive as Russia would have liked, has been increasingly creaking since Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine, experts told Insider.

Some of its members have made unprecedented public snubs against Putin, and experts say they're conscious of Russia's poor military performance over the past year, with questions over how well Russia could protect them.

Some may even fear becoming Russian targets.

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As Putin has become more isolated since the invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, CSTO members have made up some of his few remaining allies, with close cultural, historical, and military ties, as well as economies that heavily rely on Russia.

In addition to Russia, the CSTO consists of Armenia, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan, all once part of the Soviet Union.

But some have committed a series of apparent snubs against Putin since the invasion began.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: abigfatlie; admissionoffailure; bunchoflies; ciaccontractor; ciapropaganda; crumbling; csto; europe; failedinvasion; ilovezelinsky; liarliarpantsonfire; loadsofbullshit; losing; nato; putin; smellslikebullshit
Putin starting to stink inside CSTO...


1 posted on 05/10/2023 3:27:48 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

putin and biden are the diaper boys (diapers made in china) with nukes


2 posted on 05/10/2023 3:42:56 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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3 posted on 05/10/2023 3:47:57 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Timber Rattler

Yeah right. NATO ( and all the collective West) can’t hold a candle to the strength and power of the Russian/ Chinese alliance.

Thank you senile Joe.


4 posted on 05/10/2023 3:49:28 AM PDT by delta7
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so then why does Russia keep losing on the battlefield?

to a country 1/40th of its size?

some alliance ... LOL


5 posted on 05/10/2023 3:58:55 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Timber Rattler

Putin’s reneging of the Budapest Memorandum has opened the eyes of Russia’s partners and forced them to ask themselves “who is next?”.


6 posted on 05/10/2023 4:24:17 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: Timber Rattler

Not sure what that is supposed to mean. The one on the far left has a little gap. Does that mean anything? I just see 2 people who could not follow simple instructions to stand in front of their flag.


7 posted on 05/10/2023 4:43:36 AM PDT by pas
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To: delta7

Your statement is ill informed to say the least.


8 posted on 05/10/2023 5:12:39 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: canuck_conservative

You ask why did he say the collective West can’t hold a candle to Russia/ China?
Because like all of his ilk, he stamped his feet, cried, and insisted that it’s true.


9 posted on 05/10/2023 5:14:59 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Timber Rattler

Or, the organization never actually existed


10 posted on 05/10/2023 5:20:03 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Timber Rattler

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11 posted on 05/10/2023 5:27:03 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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Re Russia:

There is not really any there there. Russian prosperity was created by western companies. When they left, the prosperity left with them.

The Russian people lack the wherewithal to exist in the modern world


12 posted on 05/10/2023 5:35:09 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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There is not really any there there. Russian prosperity was created by western companies. When they left, the prosperity left with them.

The Russian people lack the wherewithal to exist in the modern world

You would think that Putin is competent as far as the Russian oil/gas sectors. That he would impose the kind of discipline where the Russian oil/gas Corporations have the oil/gas field skills to explore and drill and build the needed infrastructure. But this is not the case. The Russians have relied on Western oil companies such as Shell oil to do all this. The labor is Russian and ethnic Russians in their oil patch. But all the engineering, planning and direction comes from Western oil services companies. These companies have departed since Putin invaded Ukraine. So now incompetent Russians are left to their own devices.

In the early 1990s Russian collapse/chaos, the oil fields in very cold permafrost regions got ruined due to cracked pipes and valves. Why? Because some water comes up with oil. When the oil is not kept in motion, flowing towards exports and internal Russian uses. Then the water freezes, expands, and bursts pipes and valves. Who came in and repaired this damage over 20-30 years? Western oil services companies. The Russians were not skilled enough

13 posted on 05/10/2023 5:50:35 AM PDT by dennisw
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so then why does Russia keep losing on the battlefield?

A year ago Ukraine was still in possession of Popasnaya, now they're being kicked from Bahkmut about 30 miles to the West.

Not sure how you Northern Bud Lite drinkers define losing, but that ain't it.

14 posted on 05/10/2023 6:08:46 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: delta7
the strength and power of the Russian/ Chinese alliance.


15 posted on 05/10/2023 6:09:46 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Timber Rattler

Exclusive: Japan is in talks to open a NATO office as Ukraine war makes world less stable, foreign minister says

“Tokyo
CNN

Japan is in talks to open a NATO liaison office, the first of its kind in Asia, the country’s foreign minister told CNN in an exclusive interview on Wednesday, saying Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has made the world less stable.

“We are already in discussions, but no details (have been) finalized yet,” Foreign Minister Yoshimasa Hayashi said on Wednesday, speaking a week ahead of the Group of Seven summit, hosted this year by Japan in Hiroshima.

Hayashi specifically cited Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last year as an event with repercussions far beyond Europe’s borders that forced Japan to rethink regional security.

“The reason why we are discussing about this is that since the aggression by Russia to Ukraine, the world (has) become more unstable,” he said.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/asia/japan-foreign-minister-hayashi-nato-intl-hnk/index.html


16 posted on 05/10/2023 4:22:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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