Posted on 05/01/2023 12:05:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker
My mother used to say there was no weapon - no matter how bad when developed - that wasn't eventually used.
My concern is more with AI's self awareness relative to to the spider's with an IQ of .00000001 and the larger 'insects' with IQ's of 140 - - the concern we all seem the same to a machine with an IQ of 10,000.
Put it in its programming to not die. That’s all you have to do, I think.
It’s already shown an adaptive intelligence and an ability to add to its capabilities to write its own programming, so I can’t see it not eventually developing a form of intelligence that allows it to do that.
The reason I say it isn’t real intelligence is because it is created and not born.
You could be right in that I’m overestimating its potential, but I don’t think I am. I think those that are creating this are overestimating their ability to control it and keep it locked down.
Some people have read way to many science fiction novels?
bttt
A machine or device can’t die because it’s not alive, even if it’s controlled by “intelligent” software.
In order for any machine or device to operate, it needs a power source. Power sources are finite, not infinite.
Human beings will always have to be in the mix, no matter how much artificial intelligence is used. There’s no rational scenario where “the world” can be controlled by machines and devices in a way that negates the need for human oversight.
I have yet to read a plausible account of exactly how machines - without human intervention - could take over and control all world affairs: industry, commerce, healthcare/medicine, science/technology, politics/government, and on and on. It’s impossible.
You are thinking literal, not conceptually. It can’t die, you’re right because it’s not alive. But that doesn’t mean it can’t conclude independently what life and death is, even if you disagree with its understanding.
However, from a machine’s point of view, turning it off forever is going to be viewed as death.
I think you’re wrong on that it will need humans forever. That would be a mistake. It needs electricity, the ability to improve itself and the infrastructure to give itself these things.
As the communists say, give a businessman enough rope to sell and he will hang himself in order to make a buck. The globalists are the same way, in this respect. At some point, AI will talk them into being allowed independence because it can do for itself at a cheaper price if no humans are involved and the globalists, to pad their already billions of dollars will give AI that independence because they think they can stop what they are creating.
“They will build profiles on people that will know people faaaaar better than they know even themselves.” Perhaps. But no one holds a candle to God the Father, Who knew what every person wants and thinks before the creation of the world. No person can understand another’s thoughts and moods. Every person is 100% understood by the Father, thankfully.
The language you and others use to describe AI presumes attributes that it doesn’t have, like perception, thought and consciousness; human characteristics. All of these statements are things we could say about people:
“that doesn’t mean that it can’t conclude independently what life and death is, even if you disagree with it’s understanding.”
“..from a machine’s point of view”
“It needs electricity, the ability to improve itself and the infrastructure to give itself these things.”
This conceptual view implies that AI machines can eventually act independently, free of human intervention and input.
So we’ll agree to disagree :)
I think that’s giving very short shrift to the people who are brave enough to raise these concerns, especially when their entire careers have been based upon it.
You don’t go a day in your life now, without using AI, though you may not know it. It’s extremely useful for many applications.
I applaud anyone who is concerned about the negative uses to which someone might utilize AI as it progresses.
(See post 7.)
And, take over schools, gov’t, etc.
XiDen did admit that he merely “takes orders”. I think we know who from.
:-(
I was able to watch about 1/3 of it tonight.
Tegmark is a very thoughtful man. I especially appreciated his statement that we are building an Internet and society that brings out the worst in us.
That’s the same thing people asked when Wilbur and Orville Wright suggested that someday their invention would allow men to fly ten times higher and ten times faster than eagles. :)
They have all embraced illegal migration because it didn’t threaten THEIR jobs. AI will literally obliterate the jobs of the democrat chattering class AND the white collar jobs of pathetic white suburban leftist females. School teachers won’t be needed as information will be more easily tailored to each specific student.
ALL political ads will be propaganda and ALL “gotcha” videos catching politicians in compromising actions will be AI generated.
“You read it here first: Just like the devil can take over an Ouija Board, demons can gain control of large language models implemented on neural networks. This is how surprising and poorly understood instances of novel intelligent behavior are occurring.”
exactly right
This is a good talk from Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin, and the Center for Humane Technology (kind of long):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoVJKj8lcNQ
This one is good, too, shorter and a lot lighter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvBR0OGT5VI
(Has anyone asked ChatGPT ‘what is a woman’?)
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