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To: Jonty30
Put it in its programming to not die.

A machine or device can’t die because it’s not alive, even if it’s controlled by “intelligent” software.

In order for any machine or device to operate, it needs a power source. Power sources are finite, not infinite.

Human beings will always have to be in the mix, no matter how much artificial intelligence is used. There’s no rational scenario where “the world” can be controlled by machines and devices in a way that negates the need for human oversight.

I have yet to read a plausible account of exactly how machines - without human intervention - could take over and control all world affairs: industry, commerce, healthcare/medicine, science/technology, politics/government, and on and on. It’s impossible.

26 posted on 05/01/2023 2:45:28 PM PDT by yelostar (AI: another make-believe problem created to coerce the citizen into surrendering his freedom.)
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To: yelostar

You are thinking literal, not conceptually. It can’t die, you’re right because it’s not alive. But that doesn’t mean it can’t conclude independently what life and death is, even if you disagree with its understanding.

However, from a machine’s point of view, turning it off forever is going to be viewed as death.

I think you’re wrong on that it will need humans forever. That would be a mistake. It needs electricity, the ability to improve itself and the infrastructure to give itself these things.

As the communists say, give a businessman enough rope to sell and he will hang himself in order to make a buck. The globalists are the same way, in this respect. At some point, AI will talk them into being allowed independence because it can do for itself at a cheaper price if no humans are involved and the globalists, to pad their already billions of dollars will give AI that independence because they think they can stop what they are creating.


27 posted on 05/01/2023 3:06:31 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Black widow spiders aren't the only species that eats their mate after finishing with them. )
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To: yelostar
'There’s no rational scenario where “the world” can be controlled by machines and devices in a way that negates the need for human oversight.'

'Human Oversight' seems to be one of the very things that Hinton fears. The article quotes him as saying, “It is hard to see how you can prevent the bad actors from using it for bad things,”
40 posted on 05/02/2023 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: yelostar
I have yet to read a plausible account of exactly how machines - without human intervention - could take over and control all world affairs: industry, commerce, healthcare/medicine, science/technology, politics/government, and on and on. It’s impossible.

An artificial intelligence will need human hands in order to act in the world. And certain humans will willingly serve it, in exchange for power and wealth, just like our current human power elites have plenty of human minions serving them.

A superior intelligence would have the power to predict human behavior, and the ability to influence humans to do its bidding. Someone serving AI would have access to information about how the stock market will go, and how best to invest. He would become wealthy.

Do not discount the idea that an intelligence without physical presence cannot have great influence in this world. What is Satan, if not that?

53 posted on 05/03/2023 1:27:17 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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