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Will Biden send US airpower for Ukraine offensive?
Asia Times ^

Posted on 04/26/2023 4:29:05 AM PDT by FarCenter

As a practical matter, any modern military offensive launched without air cover is a suicide mission.

Ukraine no longer has much of an air force, even with the addition of perhaps a dozen or so old MIG-29s acquired from NATO countries. Some of those are not flyable and others are being disassembled and used for parts.

Ukraine’s operational fighter aircraft have to fly against more advanced Russian fighters including the formidable Su-35, and survive in combat against mobile Russian air defenses.

Whatever Ukraine has, its air force cannot be expected to last more than a few days in a major combat, if that.

And yet, Ukraine is planning a new offensive. It is possible that US President Joe Biden is planning to provide air support to the Ukrainian army or at least has winked in the direction of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Biden already has said he won’t let Ukraine fall. But, even within the administration, some are questioning the wisdom of supporting a major offensive, citing fears that the Ukrainians don’t have the troops or the tactics to succeed.

This raises the question of whether Ukraine’s military leaders are going ahead knowing full well they are sending their land forces into a meat grinder, or whether they have been given assurances that the US will neutralize Russia’s air force and air defenses. Is there a possibility that Zelensky has been offered American planes and pilots with rebadged F-16s?

There is nothing new in the idea of “volunteer” air operators. Remember the Flying Tigers of World War II or Russian pilots in Chinese uniforms flying rebadged MIGs in the Korean war, or Russian pilots pretending to be Egyptian flyboys in the Egypt-Israel War of Attrition (1967-1970).


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1 posted on 04/26/2023 4:29:05 AM PDT by FarCenter
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This raises the question of whether Ukraine’s military leaders are going ahead knowing full well they are sending their land forces into a meat grinder

After Ukraine's counteroffensive fails, what's Plan E?

2 posted on 04/26/2023 4:33:06 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: FarCenter

Will he?

Is a bear catholic?

Does a pope sh!t in the woods?


3 posted on 04/26/2023 4:34:57 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America ‘tween MD and TN)
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To: FarCenter

Biden could send them F35s, which aviation experts call the “flying pig”... You can tell it by the characteristic oinking sound it makes going through the air, sort of like the old German Stuka with its sirens....


4 posted on 04/26/2023 4:37:07 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: FarCenter

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5 posted on 04/26/2023 4:37:43 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: FarCenter

I would be shocked, shocked to find that ‘retired’ US Air Force pilots are flying rented warplanes for big bucks from a Ukrainian treasury stuffed with billions of Congressionally appropriated dollars.


6 posted on 04/26/2023 4:50:41 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: FarCenter

i thought it was already decided that it would deplete our fleet to a dangerous degree.


7 posted on 04/26/2023 4:54:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: FarCenter

“meat grinder”

A lot more Russian soldiers are dying than Ukrainian soldiers I believe, especially in and around Bakhmut.


8 posted on 04/26/2023 4:55:16 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

US airpower in any offensive is the last escalation the warmongers in DC employ. The counter escalation to such a blunder starts WWIII.


9 posted on 04/26/2023 5:07:22 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: FarCenter

Biden sends air power. Putin sends theatre nucs. Will biden’s next move be to start WWlll? Inquiring minds want to know.


10 posted on 04/26/2023 5:23:13 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: FarCenter

” Is there a possibility that Zelensky has been offered American planes and pilots with rebadged F-16s?”
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I can’t see the US doing that. Russia has superior anti-aircraft capabilities and could easily take our aircraft down. The neocons don’t care about sending the Ukies into a meat grinder, they are ready to fight till the last Ukrainian.


11 posted on 04/26/2023 5:23:30 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: FarCenter

When will the bombing of Moscow start?


12 posted on 04/26/2023 5:30:58 AM PDT by Ex-Episcopalian
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To: FarCenter

Will Biden send US airpower for Ukraine offensive?


A resounding NO!! That would be a direct confrontation and could force Russia to legitimatize the use of tactical nukes. So nope, not a chance. Click Bait.


13 posted on 04/26/2023 5:33:19 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: FarCenter

No. And Ukraine has messed up by flying armed drones deep into Russia.


14 posted on 04/26/2023 5:38:47 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Russian troops on the front line are stealing tractors and private autos to transport rations and ammunition. The Scooby vans intended for the task have all been destroyed.


15 posted on 04/26/2023 5:39:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: FarCenter

He will do it if he is convinced that with that he can win the elections


16 posted on 04/26/2023 5:42:59 AM PDT by californian by choice
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To: bert

“ Russian troops on the front line are stealing tractors and private autos to transport rations and ammunition”
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Stealing bicycles and tricycles too for resupply missions? /s


17 posted on 04/26/2023 5:44:33 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX’)
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To: linMcHlp

“remember our brothers and sisters, our mothers and fathers, our wives and children tortured to death by [Russians] ... We shall exact a brutal revenge for everything”


18 posted on 04/26/2023 5:44:50 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: ganeemead

I wouldn’t send any 5th generation aircraft to that theatre.


19 posted on 04/26/2023 5:57:16 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (America is now Nazi Germany circa 1935. )
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To: FarCenter
Will Biden send US airpower for Ukraine offensive?

It primarily hinges on whether The Biden Crime Family receives their check from Burisma in a timely fashion.

20 posted on 04/26/2023 7:10:32 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Save the Republic - VOTE TRUMP!!!)
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