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Guided and glide bombs: new feature in Ukraine war
Asia Times ^

Posted on 04/21/2023 3:52:01 AM PDT by FarCenter

The Ukrainians are using US-supplied glide bombs and the Russians have their own.

These weapons are a new feature in the Ukraine war, and so far the Russians are winning the battle of glide bombs. The Ukrainians are calling the Russian glide bombs an “extremely big threat.”

The US has supplied Ukraine with two different types of glide bombs, the GLSDB (ground-launched small diameter bomb) produced by Boeing and Saab (Sweden), and the JDAM-ER (joint direct attack munition-extended range), manufactured by Boeing. Over the years Boeing has produced more than 500,000 JDAMs.

Russia has answered with two types of precision bombs, the Grom E2 and the UPAB-1500B-E.

Surprisingly, the US-supplied weapons have not been effective and have been intercepted by the Russians.

The Russian Grom E2 also has encountered mechanical or electronic faults. But the UPAB-1500B is another story: it appears to be effective and reliable in limited use. Ukraine has not been able to jam or shoot down UPAB bombs so far.

There is a difference between a glide bomb and a guided bomb. A guided bomb is directed to its target from the cockpit of the aircraft releasing it. The bomb is steerable. A glide bomb differs in that it is released and glides to its target. While it can be controlled by a pilot or copilot, more typically it operates autonomously once it is released.


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1 posted on 04/21/2023 3:52:01 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

To use a glide bomb you need an an airforce.

To use an airforce you need to control the skys near the front (50kms).


2 posted on 04/21/2023 3:55:46 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: FarCenter
The US has supplied Ukraine with two different types of glide bombs, the GLSDB (ground-launched small diameter bomb) produced by Boeing and Saab (Sweden), and the JDAM-ER (joint direct attack munition-extended range), manufactured by Boeing. Over the years Boeing has produced more than 500,000 JDAMs.

For anyone who doesn't know this, the narrative above explains why misfits like Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley have been unapologetic war-mongering "neo-cons" for so long.

Since Boeing established a major presence in South Carolina, the company has owned SC politicians like Graham and Haley as obedient pets.

3 posted on 04/21/2023 3:57:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: 2banana

To use an airforce you need to control the skys near the front (50kms).

JDAM ER has a published range of over 72km

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/joint-direct-attack-munition-extended-range-jdam-usa/#:~:text=JDAM%2DER%20is%20a%20high,range%20of%20more%20than%2072km.


4 posted on 04/21/2023 4:01:50 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: FarCenter
Surprisingly, the US-supplied weapons have not been effective

posting your usual Asia Times ChiCom lies again, we see


5 posted on 04/21/2023 4:23:51 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: 2banana

I wonder if the Ukes still have much of a functioning air force remaining? I know they have publicly asked for modern fighter planes (and been rebuffed?) but what is available to give them that would help if the West agreed to gift it to them?


6 posted on 04/21/2023 4:30:36 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (Nothing Changes if Nothing Changes)
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To: 2banana

To use a glide bomb you need an an airforce.
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Vlad is hammering the Adivika area and certain fronts with his. Most here have absolutely no idea the power of his 500, 1500+ kilo glide bombs have. Unlike his artillery hammer, ( basically 152mm ) , just ONE glide bomb takes out even the strongest Soviet built Ukie bridges.

We can thank Boeing, the Ukies crying for more, more,more prompted Boeing to put guidance and wings on our old artillery shells ….Vlad learned well and also put guidance and wings on his MASSIVE stocks of HEAVY bombs. Recent video and pictures show huge craters 40-80 meters wide.

Brian on The New Atlas covers the massive damage these weapons are doing.

And yes you are correct, the Ukies simply have no aircraft , Vlad has many to deploy these glide bombs from 50-125 KM away- far away from Ukie AA.


7 posted on 04/21/2023 4:39:00 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Wow...

A rational statement backed by facts.

You will be labeled as un-American and a hate America person by the Kool-aid drinking thought police around here.


8 posted on 04/21/2023 4:43:45 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: FarCenter
The Ukraine-NATO war is now over.

NATO bunker in non-NATO Ukraine taken out, 300 killed - Putin just DESTROYED NATO'S top Ukraine leaders with this attack, U.S. is silent.

9 posted on 04/21/2023 4:47:36 AM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: desertsolitaire

They don’t.

And it’s a simple easy to corroborate fact.

And it takes years to build a new air force based on totally different air platforms, technology and logistics.

So, a logical conclusion is that the Ukrainians will launch very few glide bombs while the Russians will launch many.

To the Kool-aid thought police here at FR, somehow that makes me un-American and a hate America person.

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“I wonder if the Ukes still have much of a functioning air force remaining? I know they have publicly asked for modern fighter planes (and been rebuffed?) but what is available to give them that would help if the West agreed to gift it to them?”


10 posted on 04/21/2023 4:47:54 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: C210N

~100 high ranking US personnel killed (Assuming they are the majority of NATO) killed in one day would cause a shock in the DOD. That kind of loss would leak out.

The number of families impacted would be substantial. Assuming each person had 4 immediate family members and 10 extended family members—there would be thousands of people being informed and processed.

There would be 10-15 professional relations per casualty. That makes this coverup require about 10,000 people to keep their mouths shut.

That’s not going to happen.


11 posted on 04/21/2023 4:54:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: canuck_conservative

Oh boy, but just think of all the Russian and Ukrainian boys the US is responsible for seeing killed. If we keep it up we might see as many mostly innocent dead bodies laid at our feet as we saw during our murderous rampage through the Middle East the first two decades of this century. But it was all worth it, right? If not for our involvement all the wonderful things currently going on in Iraq and Afghanistan would have be lost to the world. Not to mention, our great humanitarian contribution to the Iraqi and Afghan people only cost us 15,000 dead American boys.


12 posted on 04/21/2023 4:57:25 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: SauronOfMordor
JDAM ER has a published range of over 72km

In unjammed skies

13 posted on 04/21/2023 5:00:53 AM PDT by fso301
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To: hardspunned
uh, in case you didn't notice, Putin started this war

so he's the one responsible for all the Russians and Ukrainians killed

make sure you assign the blame properly


14 posted on 04/21/2023 5:05:01 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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“Stephen Bryen is a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy and at the Yorktown Institute.”

https://yorktowninstitute.org/fellows/stephen-bryen/

Dr. Stephen Bryen has 50 years of experience in academia, government, and industry.

He has served as an Assistant Professor of Government at Lehigh University, as Senior Staff Director of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, as the head of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, as the Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Trade Security Policy, as the founder and first director of the Defense Technology Security Administration, as the President of Delta Tech Inc., as the President of Finmeccanica North America (now Leonardo), and as a Commissioner of the U.S. China Security Review Commission.

...

More at the link.


15 posted on 04/21/2023 5:10:48 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: C210N

“The Ukraine-NATO war is now over.”

Do we have permission to laugh at you when Ukraine continues to vaporize Russian battalions after this month?


16 posted on 04/21/2023 5:10:53 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: fso301

Glide bombs aren’t fast or stealthy. They can easily be targeted and shot down by S-300 and Patriot missile systems.

Ukraine’s main challenge is they have to defend an entire country, while Russia can concentrate its SAMs on a narrow front. That leaves gaps the Russians can exploit.


17 posted on 04/21/2023 5:14:46 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: FarCenter
Surprisingly, the US-supplied weapons have not been effective and have been intercepted by the Russians.

Not surprising, they are being launched from MIG's not F16's as intended.

18 posted on 04/21/2023 5:19:54 AM PDT by tlozo ( (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees ) )
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To: canuck_conservative

So? Look around the world at all the other wars going on that were started by someone that also have no bearing on the United States. Shoot, we could be supplying weapons in Sudan, increasing the death toll exponentially this very day. The thought of that must give you a warm fuzzy feeling all over.


19 posted on 04/21/2023 5:22:28 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: 2banana

Bombs dropped from drones go right into the open tank hatch and cause the tank to go boom

Bombs dropped from drones onto several Russians in trenches cheaply eliminate them all in one small inexpensive blow.

Bombs dropped from drones onto Russians unloading supplies from stolen tractors Destroy the tractor, the supplies and the hapless Russians. (the tractor was stolen because all the small trucks have already been destroyed)


20 posted on 04/21/2023 5:25:08 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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