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EPA is said to propose rules meant to drive up electric car sales tenfold
The New York Times via Seattle Times ^ | April 8, 2023 | By CORAL DAVENPORT

Posted on 04/09/2023 5:54:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON — The Biden administration is planning some of the most stringent auto pollution limits in the world, designed to ensure that all-electric cars make up as much as 67% of new passenger vehicles sold in the country by 2032, according to two people familiar with the matter.

That would represent a quantum leap for the United States — where just 5.8% of vehicles sold last year were all-electric — and would exceed President Joe Biden’s earlier ambitions to have all-electric cars account for half of those sold here by 2030.

It would be the federal government’s most aggressive climate regulation and would propel the United States to the front of the global effort to slash greenhouse gases generated by cars, a major driver of climate change. The European Union has enacted vehicle emissions standards that are expected to phase out the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035. Canada and Britain have proposed standards similar to the European model.

At the same time, the proposed regulation would pose a significant challenge for automakers. Nearly every major car company has invested heavily in electric vehicles, but few have committed to the levels envisioned by the Biden administration.

The action from the Environmental Protection Agency is likely to hearten climate activists, who are angry over the Biden administration’s recent decision to approve an enormous oil drilling project on federal land in Alaska. Some in the administration argue that speeding up a transition to renewable energy, with most Americans driving electric vehicles, would lessen demand for oil drilled in Alaska or elsewhere.

EPA Administrator Michael Regan is expected to announce the proposed limits on tailpipe emissions Wednesday in Detroit.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


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1 posted on 04/09/2023 5:54:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Import import import from China.

This big guy is really earning his pocket change.


2 posted on 04/09/2023 5:58:43 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

China’s rulers must be SOOOOooo happy!


4 posted on 04/09/2023 5:59:14 AM PDT by pfony1 ( All Democrats lie. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

FJB.

That is all.


5 posted on 04/09/2023 6:03:01 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the dat)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just have to keep the Chrysler Pacifica going...

Can’t afford to change vehicles at this stage in my life. Every year it continues to hold onto a greater percentage of its value, and as I only drive about 4,000 miles per year, the EV would NEVER be a paying proposition. No matter how many subsidies may be offered.

Battery-powered EVs are a dead-end, fit only for niche purposes.


6 posted on 04/09/2023 6:03:13 AM PDT by alloysteel (Fiction has to be at least plausible, while reality obeys no such constraint.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My wife has a 2018 Toyota Avalon. I plan to get myself a 2004-2006 Toyota Sienna now that I have a job to which I must commute starting tomorrow.

Then, we go full Cuba. Both cars will have to do for the rest of our days. (I have maybe 25 driving years left, my wife maybe 40). Going fprward. I will spend what is necessary for crate engines, trannies. I am in Phoenix, so thank God rust is not a big factor. I wish I had the space and money to get a mid 60s Mopar or GM, but I don’t. So I will go as practical as I can.

Diesel might be the only way to be more practical long term.


7 posted on 04/09/2023 6:04:39 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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Where are the Republicans on this? Crickets.


8 posted on 04/09/2023 6:05:17 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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I hope that can see the day when I watch the population rise up, surround the EPA and take each and every sordid, low IQ employee and hang them.

Not even close to kidding.


9 posted on 04/09/2023 6:08:20 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Biden is like..sure what do you want me to do. 5x ..let’s go for 19 times. I hate America.


10 posted on 04/09/2023 6:11:40 AM PDT by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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Hopefully they won’t enact emissions laws for all cars built in the past 30 years or something. If they do, hopefully they’ll exempt vintage/antique cars.


11 posted on 04/09/2023 6:12:52 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

but no way to charge them


12 posted on 04/09/2023 6:13:55 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Even before the Ukraine war limited supplies of many critical materials there simply wasn’t enough material, copper, aluminum, cobalt, nickel, etc. to make the electric car industry continue on its then present path. While it will be possible to develop alternative supplies over, say a ten-or twenty-year period, there’s something called opportunity costs. Diverting, say, fifty percent of nickel and copper, for example, to electric car uses means those materials will not be available for other uses, making satisfying those other uses substantially more expensive.

Here’s the hilarious bit. We’ll see people charging their electric cars with gas generators from Lowes and Home Depot.

Also, the used batteries will be huge poisonous land fill debris. The idea that they can be recycled is crazy as the batteries get more dangerous as they age and short out. Not to mention every battery is different so you can’t automate the process. See link for some spectacular battery driven car fires.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chinese+electric+car+fires


13 posted on 04/09/2023 6:15:27 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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“The Biden administration is planning some of the most stringent auto pollution limits in the world, designed to ensure that all-electric cars make up as much as 67% of new passenger vehicles sold in the country by 2032”

So what if there isn’t enough electrical energy produced by the Greeniacs solar panels and windmills to keep everyone’s EV cars on the road at least the only CO2 being produced will be from China’s coal fired power plants.


14 posted on 04/09/2023 6:16:00 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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This was forced on us as an alternative to fossil fuel. but it takes fossil fuel to manufacture, it was also forced on us for the religion of climate change while china and India are building coal fired plants to make the parts for electric cars, it was forced on us and now it will be out of reach for everyone, it was forced on us because they don’t want us mobile, period


15 posted on 04/09/2023 6:18:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: antidemoncrat

Renewable energy is state-sponsored poverty.


16 posted on 04/09/2023 6:22:00 AM PDT by brookwood (To acheive equity, the percentage of whites in prison must equal the percentage of blacks in prison)
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To: eartick

It’s as if - in the run up to World War II - Roosevelt’s ‘team’ said only volkswagens could be sold in the United States and all parts had to be ordered from Germany...

China got deal when they bought Hunter and the big guy....


17 posted on 04/09/2023 6:24:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Don't use their words. It's not 'gender affirming care' it's SEXUAL MUTILATION OF A YOUNG PERSON.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The U.S. is going to become a second Cuba...

where Cuba had to keep their 1950s American cars alive and going for decades.

The U.S. will have the ICE cars from the last 3 decades alive and going for the next 50 years, if not more.

But, regulations can be started and stopped, and EV sales will stand around 10% or less for the next 100 years. People don’t want them and people can’t be forced into demands by government. Besides, unless democrats can figure out a way for them to stay in power forever, EV regulations will be changed once the EPA is forced to change it’s useless and stupid demands.


18 posted on 04/09/2023 6:25:19 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Something this important should obviously be left up to Congress. It infuriates me that presidents get away with issuing executive orders and regulations that are actually laws.

If we are to have an imperial presidency, why not save a few bucks and get rid of Congress altogether?
/s


19 posted on 04/09/2023 6:25:20 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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"EPA is said to propose rules meant to drive up electric car sales give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States tenfold"

There. Fixed it.

20 posted on 04/09/2023 6:28:26 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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