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North Dakota legislature fails to override veto of transgender pronoun bill
The Hill ^ | April 3, 2023 | Brooke Migdon

Posted on 04/04/2023 7:47:40 AM PDT by Twotone

North Dakota House Republicans on Monday failed to secure enough votes to override Gov. Doug Burgum’s (R) veto of legislation that would have allowed state employees and educators to misgender transgender staff and students.

The North Dakota House in a 56-36 vote on Monday failed to secure the two-thirds majority needed to override Burgum’s veto of Senate Bill 2231, which had sought to prevent public schools and state government entities from adopting policies that require students and employees to address a transgender person using pronouns consistent with their gender identity.

Burgum vetoed the measure last week, writing in a letter to North Dakota Senate President Tammy Miller (R) that the bill would have forced teachers to “take on the role of pronoun police.”

Burgum in the letter wrote that he would have signed off on the proposed law if it had only applied to state government employees, arguing that existing free speech protections already shield against compelled speech.

But extending the same requirements to schools is a step too far, Burgum wrote, and “infringes on local control by unnecessarily injecting the state into rare instances most appropriately handled at the parent, teacher and school district level.”

“This section removes discretion from school boards, schools and teachers in determining how to accommodate the needs of all students in public schools,” Burgum wrote.

Burgum’s veto was quickly overridden last week by the North Dakota Senate in a 37-9 vote, but with the effort falling short in the House, Burgum’s veto will stand and the legislation will not take effect.

At least 15 other bills targeting LGBTQ people have been introduced in the North Dakota legislature this year, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, including legislation to bar transgender women and girls from competing on female sports teams and to criminally prosecute doctors who provide gender-affirming health care to minors.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: northdakota; transgender
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1 posted on 04/04/2023 7:47:40 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

[[ would have allowed state employees and educators to misgender transgender staff and students. ]]

No bias in this article. /s misgender? Since when is calling someone a pronoun based on their birth sex misgendering?

Liberals are stealing lanGuage even!


2 posted on 04/04/2023 7:52:22 AM PDT by Bob434 (question )
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To: Twotone

“...veto of legislation that would have allowed state employees and educators to misgender transgender staff and students...”

So now they aren’t allowed? What’s the penalty if they do? Nice job gov.


3 posted on 04/04/2023 7:53:33 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Twotone

Newspeak embraces Newsex. Funny really.


4 posted on 04/04/2023 7:56:21 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Rufus T Firefly lives on. )
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To: Twotone
Time to primary Doug Burgum.
5 posted on 04/04/2023 7:57:47 AM PDT by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Twotone

i did say sorry about the old woman, but from behind...


6 posted on 04/04/2023 7:58:38 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Vision
Burgum has had the unfortunate idea of running for President.

Mark my words.

7 posted on 04/04/2023 8:04:30 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Twotone

http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Gleaves/Dinner_at_the_White_House_-_a_parable.shtml

What had I done wrong?

As if answering the unspoken thought, the President suddenly cocked his head, locked his empty eyes to mine, and bared a million teeth, chuckling wryly as he folded his hands.

“You should have stopped me at the dinner roll,” he said.


8 posted on 04/04/2023 8:05:40 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: teeman8r

You could have called me Dennis....


9 posted on 04/04/2023 8:06:48 AM PDT by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: Twotone

fails to override veto.

That is a triple negative.

Makes my head spin.


10 posted on 04/04/2023 8:15:07 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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legislation that would have allowed state employees and educators to misgender transgender staff and students.
= = =

‘misgender’ - add another negative


11 posted on 04/04/2023 8:16:24 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: Twotone
would have allowed state employees and educators to misgender transgender staff and students.

Wow, is that ever an Orwellian statement! To refer to people by their ACTUAL sex/gender, is "misgendering" them?

12 posted on 04/04/2023 8:16:51 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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“Burgum’s veto was quickly overridden last week by the North Dakota Senate in a 37-9 vote”

How can that be with the ND Senate majority of Republican (43) to minority Democratic-NPL (4)?

This is one of the hardest to understand articles I’ve read with at least four consecutive negatives in one sentence: “failed...override...veto...misgender.”


13 posted on 04/04/2023 8:17:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone els)
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Burgum vetoed the measure last week, writing in a letter to North Dakota Senate President Tammy Miller (R) that the bill would have forced teachers to “take on the role of pronoun police.”

No, you idiot. It does exactly the opposite. So, he embraces free speech in the workplace, but not the classroom. Dumba**

14 posted on 04/04/2023 8:24:50 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: Twotone

More bad news.


15 posted on 04/04/2023 8:26:28 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: Bonemaker

The best I can tell is that the veto stands. And because of that, the schools cannot force employees to use the “preferred pronouns”.

The teachers are allowed to call people by their true sex.


16 posted on 04/04/2023 8:43:15 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Twotone

So, the use of correct pronouns issue comes up when we speak about a person in third person.

Okay, so let’s entertain how this goes down and the implications.

New boss: Explain to me how the DDD report gets done.

Me: Every Friday I email Pat the weekly sales figures and Pat inputs them into the AAA spreadsheet. Then Pat standardizes them and runs an RRR calculation and sends the result to Tom.

In the above conversation that occurs between me and the boss with no one in the room, Pat is the person who is trans and I am trying to avoid using the wrong pronoun by not using one at all.

I can just as easily keep referring to Pat as Pat and never he or she or her or him even if Pat is in the room. It may sound stilted, but it avoids controversy.

Or does it. Will Pat complain because I never want to support her by using a pronoun for her at all? I can see this happening some day.

But Pat is not going to have the same relationship with co-workers as Jill when it comes to non-work functions.

Me: Did you hear that Jill’s mother just passed away>

Katie: Oh no. We should do something for her. Do you have any ideas?

In this example, Jill is a normal person and we feel free to talk about her in normal ways to get normal things done.

If Pat’s mom passed away, we avoid talking about it so as to not accidently lapse into wrong pronoun speak and be reported.


17 posted on 04/04/2023 8:48:23 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Twotone

The Democratic cancer continues to consume this Republic.


18 posted on 04/04/2023 8:52:20 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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The best I can tell is that the veto stands. And because of that, the schools cannot force employees to use the “preferred pronouns”.

You have it 180 degrees backwards. The bill would have prevented schools from forcing teachers to use chromosomally false pronouns. The governor's veto will allow schools to coerce teachers into using fake pronouns and be fired if they refuse. From the article:

The teachers are allowed to call people by their true sex.

Only if by "true sex" you mean the gender of the clothing they chose to wear that day.

19 posted on 04/04/2023 9:00:01 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

The language in the article is so convoluted it’s almost impossible to follow.


20 posted on 04/04/2023 10:26:21 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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