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China’s Maps Call Vladivostok ‘Haishenwai’
New York Sun ^ | March 24, 2023 | ALEKSANDRA GADZALA TIRZIU

Posted on 04/03/2023 3:30:40 AM PDT by BlackAdderess

And therein lies the beginning of what could become quite a story.

It has been said that one cannot use an old map to explore a new world. Yet, if one is Communist China, one might be able to edit it to create a new world. Beijing’s recently revised mapping standards seem to suggest it is attempting just that.

The standards, released by the Ministry of Natural Resources on the approval of the State Council of the people’s republic, require that all Chinese maps “accurately reflect the scope of China’s territory.” In addition to islands in the South China Sea and Free China – which is to be called “Taiwan Province” – this also appears to include eight Russian cities that span the Sino-Russian border.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: amurlands; china; formersuperpower; reconquest; russianmenace
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So it has begun. The Chinese claim to former territories taken under duress by Russia.
1 posted on 04/03/2023 3:30:40 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: BlackAdderess

So much for the Sino-Russian recent talks about becoming allies once again.


2 posted on 04/03/2023 3:41:44 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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So much for the Sino-Russian recent talks about becoming allies once again.

Yes, it's official. China has gone full Bidenist and is now allied with the US against Russia. Whew, what a relief. Now we don't have to arrest Pooh bear.

3 posted on 04/03/2023 3:52:49 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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Biden’s great Ukrainian adventure pushed Russia into China’s orbit. I don’t expect the ties will ever be permanent, neither trusts the other, but right now the ‘enemy of my enemy ...’

Why haven’t these foreign policy experts considered that three equal super-powers might be more stable than two?


4 posted on 04/03/2023 3:57:38 AM PDT by tsomer (ally )
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Why haven’t these foreign policy experts considered that three equal super-powers might be more stable than two?

"There was one?"


5 posted on 04/03/2023 4:05:58 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: BlackAdderess

One article in the NYSun and it has all begun?

I’ll wait.


6 posted on 04/03/2023 4:10:28 AM PDT by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Russia isn’t a superpower anymore

the Ukraine war has proved that


7 posted on 04/03/2023 4:16:48 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: tsomer

So Europe (with Russia as part of Europe), China, and the U.S. works for me.


8 posted on 04/03/2023 4:20:25 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Evidently the fringe left has seen "something nasty in the woodshed" Ala Stella Gibbons)
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To: BlackAdderess

What did they rename Washington DC? Isn’t that still under Chinese control?


9 posted on 04/03/2023 4:29:19 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: canuck_conservative

Neither are we.


10 posted on 04/03/2023 4:30:16 AM PDT by wny
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To: shotgun

Well it was until Putin saw the Chinese finger trap we were stuck in and decided that he had to get himself some of that!


11 posted on 04/03/2023 4:33:17 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Evidently the fringe left has seen "something nasty in the woodshed" Ala Stella Gibbons)
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Yes, it's official. China has gone full Bidenist and is now allied with the US against Russia.

I think you have it reversed. Biden is a Chinese asset.

China benefits more than anyone else from the Ukraine-Russia war.

Russia is weakened. The West is weakened. China gets cheap Russian oil.

Win-Win-Win for China, who is also gaining more control over Russia.

12 posted on 04/03/2023 4:39:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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“So it has begun. The Chinese claim to former territories taken under duress by Russia.”

So it seems that the Neocons picked the WRONG enemy, and it’s really China that they should have gone after, instead of goading Russia into attacking Ukraine, and then becoming enemies with Russia.

After all, China is renaming cities WITHOUT Russia or any other country goading them into doing it - and, in fact, are doing this after signing deal after deal with Russia to link their economies.

Once again, the Neocons GOT IT WRONG, and they THREW AWAY any chance of having the West in a position to pose a credible threat to China (they needed Russia for that, whether they like it or not, the West is not credible to take on BOTH Russia and China).

Nothing new for the Neocons, as they have a PERFECT .000 batting average when it comes to choosing countries to hate.


13 posted on 04/03/2023 4:41:39 AM PDT by BobL
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the Ukraine war has proved that...the Ukraine is no longer as big as it was a couple of years ago.
14 posted on 04/03/2023 4:53:27 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: BlackAdderess

Is Oceania supposed to ally with Eurasia or Eastasia over this?


15 posted on 04/03/2023 5:01:00 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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To: BlackAdderess

What do they call Washington, DC?


16 posted on 04/03/2023 5:15:28 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: BobL

Russia attacking Ukraine was inconvenient as heck for everyone in the West and developing world, and the only one who is happy is China. China is the only ones with a motive, so it follows that Xi probably took advantage of Putin’s weaknesses to make all of this happen when they huddled up together before announcing their relationship that China calls “Not allies, but better than allies” (Yeah, I’ll bet!).

The question is, whether Russia wants to be China’s vassal, or whether it wants to be part of Europe, which will result in a conservative realignment of Europe.


17 posted on 04/03/2023 5:16:01 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Evidently the fringe left has seen "something nasty in the woodshed" Ala Stella Gibbons)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

A target.


18 posted on 04/03/2023 5:16:58 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

No, that is not true.

Xi is carefully finessing Putin and Russia by not really doing anything. Xi knows the world sees Russia in at best an unfavorable light. Politically, it is not beneficial for China to strongly back Putin’s effort to invade Ukraine and then others.

China, especially the failing business and manufacturing CCP controlled China, must have customers to exist. Xi’s international politics have sales and money at the root


19 posted on 04/03/2023 5:17:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

No, that is not true.

Xi is carefully finessing Putin and Russia by not really doing anything. Xi knows the world sees Russia in at best an unfavorable light. Politically, it is not beneficial for China to strongly back Putin’s effort to invade Ukraine and then others.

China, especially the failing business and manufacturing CCP controlled China, must have customers to exist. Xi’s international politics have sales and money at the root


20 posted on 04/03/2023 5:17:07 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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