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Russia to station tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus
Guardian ^ | 3/25/23 | The Guardian

Posted on 03/25/2023 12:02:33 PM PDT by JonPreston

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To: Timber Rattler; JonPreston

I mean, we put troops in Syria (and elsewhere) to secure the oil, as Trump admitted (the only one who will), plus we are waging war there (per the ongoing Project for a New American Century), and Russia is stationing troops in Ukraine and waging war there.

Not surprising at all.


21 posted on 03/25/2023 12:20:21 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: JonPreston

The Russians are protecting themselves from the overwhelming offensive NATO conventional behemoth stationed in Poland. This is the EXCACT same move, under the EXACT same conditions, that Reagan and Thatcher made when they deployed the Pershing IIs in West Germany. Of course, the Russians are doing this. This counter escalation was predicted by me and probably you back when this quagmire began.


22 posted on 03/25/2023 12:24:40 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Project for a New American Century

There's a blast from the past

I wonder how many of our young Neocons, and their foreign imports, know what the PNAC documents are.

23 posted on 03/25/2023 12:25:01 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Its All Over Except ...

you forgot to mention that Russia was already “waging war” in Syria long before the US got there


24 posted on 03/25/2023 12:26:41 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: DIRTYSECRET

It isn’t my war.

Ukraine vs Russia should not affect me but our neocon government believes otherwise.

They should go ahead and tell us why.

It sure as hell has nothing to do with saving lives of the Ukranians, that is obvious.


25 posted on 03/25/2023 12:27:09 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: canuck_conservative

“are there any American nukes stored in countries next to Russia?

guess that will have to change, given Russia’s reckless escalation”

Yeah, they should have waited until NATO nuked Moscow and St. Petersburg.


26 posted on 03/25/2023 12:27:16 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: hardspunned

You’re right, and I’m certain most of us who opposed this war from the start saw this escalation as inevitable. Unless we can get a significant majority of the American public fully aware of the danger we are in, the trouble will grow.


27 posted on 03/25/2023 12:28:45 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Russia used to keep nukes there.


28 posted on 03/25/2023 12:29:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: hardspunned
back when this quagmire began

and why is it a quagmire?

uh, because both sides are evenly matched

so, thanks for admitting that tiny Ukraine is now former-superpower Russia's equal


29 posted on 03/25/2023 12:30:56 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
Russia was already “waging war” in Syria long before the US got there

Why don't you go petition your useless Canadian government to do something constructive, and stay the hell out of American foreign policy.

30 posted on 03/25/2023 12:30:58 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: BenLurkin

Hi.

“Joe Vodka sitting in Minsk watching hockey on TV probably wants no part of this.”

And neither do I.

5.56mm


31 posted on 03/25/2023 12:31:15 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: JonPreston

I also wonder.

It’s there for anyone to research.

To summarize it, per John McCain, it’s “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” (and Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, etc.).

McCain Responds to “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” video

[I bet John Bolton loved it]

https://youtu.be/KeThckstKNE

Neocons and Neoliberals like Biden wanting to wage war on Iran is ramping up, Syria is ongoing, Iraq is done, Yemen is ongoing, Libya is already done, and Biden put troops in Somalia pretty quickly after being elected.


32 posted on 03/25/2023 12:32:38 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: JonPreston

Time for peace agreement, right now. Halt this madness.


33 posted on 03/25/2023 12:34:09 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"I don't believe the leverage of hypersonic missiles is widely understood yet in changing war."

What the U.S.A. has been developing is not widely known and is even less widely understood. The more free nations may be very near another time for putting mouthy international bullies to the test and in the ground. And the more they mouth off, the sooner they'll get it.

34 posted on 03/25/2023 12:38:11 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: canuck_conservative

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner! You are correct! The billions in NATO armaments committed plus Uke cannon fodder (I rather doubt the tens of thousands of dead Uke boys would be seen as tiny in Ukraine) roughly equate the forces the Russians have committed. A quagmire! What line of disinfo were you peddling when you had this epiphany about the multi trillion dollar, generational quagmire I’ve told you about for 13 months?


35 posted on 03/25/2023 12:38:23 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: canuck_conservative

The US was waging a proxy war there in Syria before putting troops there, but I bet you like the securing the oil part with our troops as you avoided talking about that and you avoided talking about Project for a New American Century.

And the U S. was waging war in Libya (per Obama’s oroven alkegation that Gaddafi was going to kill 10k of his own people and with NATO helping via breaking its charter) and in Yemen, etc, long before Iran or other countries showed up in them.


36 posted on 03/25/2023 12:38:39 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: JonPreston
"I don’t either. No American should."

You still have that Irish flag on your FR page.

https://freerepublic.com/~jonpreston/

37 posted on 03/25/2023 12:42:09 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop

so what?


38 posted on 03/25/2023 12:48:11 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
I'm thinking a nerd like you hasn't the strength to pick up a gun, but your Neocon bellicosity is noted.

    

April 2024 is coming. tick-tock.

39 posted on 03/25/2023 12:48:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I don’t believe the leverage of hypersonic missiles is widely understood yet in changing war.


Concur. Consider hypersonic carrier missiles for other “smart weapons”. A missile that carries 6 air to air missiles for example could target a bomber formation or transport formation with a high probability of success from a 1000 miles away. Detect a group of bombers forming up after take-off and launch and within a few minutes you have destroyed most of them or cluster bombs and you get them on the taxi or roll-out on an airfield. They are that fast and you have no real defense against them.

I was an Army officer (in the 90’s) and its hard for me to wrap my head around what the future battlefield will look like. What we are witnessing in the Ukraine is only giving us a glimpse of the future even as it devolves into trench type warfare. This is why I feel strongly that we should NOT invest so heavily in large items such as aircraft carriers. I love the history and I am a nerd/fan, but its not wise to concentrate tens of billions worth of stuff into a single target that is vulnerable to a missile that costs a few million or smart long-range drone torpedoes that can sit on the bottom of the ocean waiting for a signal.

The Army knows that deploying company or battalion sized units of paratroopers using transport aircraft in a modern conflict against a near-peer adversary is too risky but our Navy still wants to put 80 plus 100-million dollar aircraft and thousands of personnel in a single hull that has little defense against such weapons. I love the force projection and they are cool, but too much risk. Perhaps we would be better off with Jeep carriers or smaller multi-use aerial platforms using drones?


40 posted on 03/25/2023 12:49:22 PM PDT by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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