Posted on 03/20/2023 4:14:42 AM PDT by FarCenter
A gloomy assessment of Ukraine’s prospects for victory against Russia emerged from a recent private gathering of former top US soldiers, intelligence officials and scholars with resumes reaching from the Reagan to the Trump administrations.
Short of trained personnel and ammunition, one speaker argued, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky might consider a Chinese peace plan, especially after Beijing’s successful mediation of the Iran-Saudi dispute.
The several dozen attendees, many of whom had held cabinet or sub-cabinet positions, met under Chatham House rules, which forbid identification of individual participants but allow the content itself to be presented.
Overwhelmingly, the sentiment of participants leaned towards escalation in the form of providing additional weapons to Ukraine. One prominent analyst proposed the formation of a “foreign legion” of fighters from other countries to supplement Ukraine’s shrinking pool of trained manpower.
The great majority of participants favored risking everything for absolute victory over Russia. None of the attendees mentioned the qualms that former president Donald Trump voiced on May 17 about the risk of nuclear escalation in Ukraine.
The question of how the Russia-Ukraine war might escalate into a broader conflict received no attention. Their frustration, rather, was that Ukraine seems less likely to defeat Russia, even if the West makes the maximum effort and risks escalation.
We should not be surprised, one of the lead presenters said at the end of the conclave, if Ukraine’s President Zelensky takes up China’s peace plan. No one in the West anticipated that China would mediate between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Although Washington has dismissed China’s peace plan for Ukraine, Zelensky has not. Russia would keep the Sea of Azov and most of the Donbas, a settlement that might be forced on Ukraine as it runs out of manpower and ammunition. America’s view of China is “primitive,” the expert added, and tends to underestimate Chinese sophistication.
A spokesman for the National Security Council dismissed the Chinese initiative, which calls for an immediate ceasefire, noting that a ceasefire would allow Russia to remain in place on territory it seized from Ukraine.
Ukraine has sustained two-thirds as many casualties as Russia, but with a third to a quarter of Russia’s population, is far less able to sustain them, according to one expert who spent many months on the ground in Ukraine.
The entire army that NATO trained between 2014 and 2022 in preparation for a Russian attack is dead, and recruits are being thrown into battle lines with three weeks of training.
In Biden’s world, we have China negotiating for peace, while the USA provides unlimited arms to keep the war going.
Something is not right here.
IBTAN
It's over.
NATO tried to breathe life into the carcass, but they are a hollow army led by woke politicians.
Celebrate, dance and sing, the end is here.
You are surprised China believes imperial wars for territorial expansion should be rewarded with captured territory?
Hopefully it works so this war can finally end and we stop wasting money we don’t have.
Do they teach adult learners like you arithmetic in Canada?
Yeah, NATO will pivot and sign a peace treaty as quickly as possible to prevent this. The Russians are spilling out around Bakhmut to the north and south and there is no spring offensive coming for the Ukrainians.
Chrystia's pest believes everything it reads in the newspaper, (after she swats him with it)...
This article goes against everything the United States military industrial complex stands for!
...and the resulting profits!
I read it right here, buddy ... 2nd-last line in this article
open your eyes
“In Biden’s world, we have China negotiating for peace, while the USA provides unlimited arms to keep the war going.”
“Something is not right here.”
It looks like business as usual to me.
As I said - you believe everything you read in the papers.
What a dolt.
Or, put in even one more way, your agreeing with Linda to "fight Russia til the last Ukrainian".
America’s view of China is “primitive,” the expert added, and tends to underestimate Chinese sophistication.
The Chicoms are like fascist Ferengi. They will cut a deal wherever they can't employ direct force. And once the road is built, employ force to ensure their deal.
More Russian propaganda - Ukraine people will never accept anything less than total Russian withdrawal from all of Ukraine including Crimea.
Any government official that accepts anything less will be considered a traitor and collaborator and be hung, and they know it.
“...read it right here, buddy ... 2nd-last line in this article
As I said - you believe everything you read in the papers.”
Let’s not forget Canada’s trade continued unabated with the North Vietnamese throughout the conflict there.
Marxists to the north of me, cartels to the south, here I am; stuck in the middle with you. (Shamlessly nicked from Steelers Wheel)
Fear not. Read Revelation and know how it will all end. 🙏
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