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A Four-Decade Secret: One Man’s Story of Sabotaging Carter’s Re-election
The New York Times ^ | Peter Baker

Posted on 03/19/2023 3:13:43 PM PDT by slag

WASHINGTON — It has been more than four decades, but Ben Barnes said he remembers it vividly. His longtime political mentor invited him on a mission to the Middle East. What Mr. Barnes said he did not realize until later was the real purpose of the mission: to sabotage the re-election campaign of the president of the United States.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: baldfacedlie; benbarnes; godsgravesglyphs; goober; haha; hostages; iran; itistolaugh; jimmycarter; johnconnally; johnconnallyjr; libmyths; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; peanutboy; peanutschadenfreude; peterbaker; pooroldjimmah; ronaldreagan; shahofiran; spewbarfslimes; spewyorktimes; thatsashame; walterdurantytimes; williamcasey
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To: slag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharpstown_scandal


21 posted on 03/19/2023 3:41:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: slag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharpstown_scandal


22 posted on 03/19/2023 3:41:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Vaduz

23 posted on 03/19/2023 3:41:52 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Which has been proven to be nonsense.

If you recall, liberals got John Anderson to run as an independent to pull Reagan votes away and get Carter elected. It still didnt work.

24 posted on 03/19/2023 3:41:59 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Gene Eric; hardspunned

Yep. You two beat me to it.


25 posted on 03/19/2023 3:42:48 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I remember that. John Anderson was positioned as the "reasonable" Republican that would siphon off Reagan voters and hand Jimmy Carter an easy re-election.

He was the Mike Pence of 1980.

I liked the country singer John Anderson a lot better.

26 posted on 03/19/2023 3:46:06 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,942,927 Truth | 87,539,833 Twitter)
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To: slag
No.

NO.

What I want, is for Tom Goldstein, who is still alive and well, to give up Ron Klain when he DIRECTED Al Gore to IGNORE Bush v Gore and drive the United States into an unfathomable constitutional crisis:

"Bush v. Gore was a muddled opinion, which took some time for Gore’s team to work out on a conference call...One man wanted to keep going, though: Klain. He refused to give up, and spent the night of the decision drawing up legal papers in the hopes that the Florida Supreme Court might establish a uniform standard, thus satisfying the 14th Amendment problem."

Early the next morning, Gore and his lawyers convened for another conference call.

“Then proceeded the most fascinating kind of historic thing that I have ever been witness to,” Tom Goldstein, an appellate attorney who participated in the Bush v. Gore argument, told me a few years ago. “It was the debate and discussion about whether to adhere to the Court’s decision, which was really, really, really interesting. There was a debate back and forth between the people on the call about whether to fight notwithstanding the Supreme Court, and insist that the Court had effectively tinkered with democracy. It was a real conversation. And it was a real conversation that lasted 20 minutes.”

Proj. Veritas should punk Klain by surreptitiously interviewing Goldstein about that fiasco. It's plain that Klain's megalomania shook Goldstein.

And 20 years later, the dumb kracker is running the country."


27 posted on 03/19/2023 3:47:58 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: slag
They couldn't wait for him to die? I guess they wanted him to know.

-PJ

28 posted on 03/19/2023 3:49:08 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: slag

Wow really? What a piece of trash article. Barnes doesn’t show proof of the so-called Iranian deal and SAYS he has no proof or direct knowledge of such. Then the slimes goes and says it can find no proof that the people that took trips to the Middle East went to Iran or met with Iranians. Oh but they’ve got hard proof that they took those trips so what Barnes says must be true?!

BS. Let’s talk about holding back the release of the Covid vaccine INTENTIONALLY until after the election? People DIED because of that.

But hey - let’s rehash the old stupid leftist lie that Carter would’ve won if only it wasn’t for this one dirty trick to block him from getting the hostages. Some of us were alive at the time to remember that Carter intentionally ordered a rescue mission that was doomed to fail to save his campaign.

And given how I’ve seen the FBI and CIA work today don’t try to tell me that the daily wall to wall coverage of the hostage situation wasn’t a planned op to get Americans to rally and support Carter during his election season when his popularity was near zero and to stop the press from reporting on real news of the day as America’s economics numbers tumbled ever lower.


29 posted on 03/19/2023 3:51:21 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: StAnDeliver
And then I want PV or whoever get Tom Goldstein on the record about how Klain went on a 20-minute rampage to demand Gore to ignore Bush v Gore; and then I want someone to play Goldstein's admission back for Klain right in front of his f'ing face.

You want to bring down The White Hospice? This would be ONE HELL OF A START!

30 posted on 03/19/2023 3:52:26 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Skywise

This is the same argument made by Gary Sick and the Christic Institute over 30 years ago.


31 posted on 03/19/2023 3:52:59 PM PDT by Publius
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To: slag

So they’re rehashing that old story again...that Reagan made a deal with Iran not to release the hostages until after the election.


32 posted on 03/19/2023 3:56:47 PM PDT by HandBasketHell
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To: KC_Conspirator
I thought at the time that John Anderson would have gotten nowhere except for Doonesbury giving him a lot of publicity--back when everyone read Doonesbury. Of course Trudeau was anti-Reagan.
33 posted on 03/19/2023 3:58:27 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: slag
Let's see what the Carter administration accomplished.

High unemployment rates

Double digit inflation.

Lines at the gas pump.

Morgage rates approaching 20%

Signing over the Panama Canal to a man who stole the election of that country.

Institution of the Federal Department of Education.

Just a few quick highlights that guaranteed Carter would not win reelection.

34 posted on 03/19/2023 3:59:34 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: slag

Shoot - got stopped by a paywall.


35 posted on 03/19/2023 3:59:57 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: PAR35

Thank you. That worked. :)


36 posted on 03/19/2023 4:02:24 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: slag

“Mr. Barnes is no shady foreign arms dealer with questionable credibility, like some of the characters who fueled previous iterations of the October surprise theory... He was such an influential figure that he helped a young George W. Bush get into the Texas Air National Guard rather than be exposed to the draft and sent to Vietnam. “

So in other words, he’s tried this crap before and been disproven.


37 posted on 03/19/2023 4:02:36 PM PDT by dangus ( )
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To: farmguy
Outside of being total horse crap (there was no way jimma was going to be reelected), this is just the liberal media’s way of saying what they did to Trump was the norm. It wasn’t.

Partner, we are at the point which is what Barack Obama wanted all along.

The totally corrupt FBI and a useless and corrupt Justice Department.

You are correct in saying that Jimah was not going to be re-elected period.

38 posted on 03/19/2023 4:03:21 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: HandBasketHell

Peter Baker apparently never sat in an hours long gas line, paid inflationary prices, saw Russia invade Afghanistan, put up with the Iran hostage daily nonsense for 400+ days, endured lousy court appointments, or listened to a sanctimonious phony who won the presidency on a pack of lies about what a wonderful person he was. The same man who blocked a predominantly black school from being built near his home in Plains when he served on the local school board.


39 posted on 03/19/2023 4:03:33 PM PDT by laconic
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To: Pontiac

My mom kept a written list of things Jimmah screwed up. She said there were too many to keep track of without the list.


40 posted on 03/19/2023 4:05:12 PM PDT by Allegra
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