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Case dropped against couple after gun pulled on Black family in Michigan
WLNS Lansing ^ | Mar 14, 2023 | Andrew Birkle

Posted on 03/15/2023 4:02:24 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Criminal charges have been dropped against a white couple charged in 2020 after one of them was captured on video pulling a handgun on a Black woman and her daughters outside a Michigan restaurant.

The trial had been set to start Monday for Eric Wuestenberg and Jillian Wuestenberg, but Oakland County Circuit Court Judge Mary Ellen Brennan dismissed the case after the alleged victims did not show up to provide witness testimony, The Oakland Press reported.

The Wuestenbergs were each charged with one count of felonious assault for the July 1, 2020, incident in the parking lot of a Chipotle restaurant in Orion Township, about 40 miles (64 kilometers) northwest of Detroit.

David Williams, Oakland County's chief assistant prosecutor, noted that the charges were dismissed Monday without prejudice, "meaning that our office can reissue charges in this matter if and when those witnesses become available." He declined further comment.

Takelia Hill, who is Black, told The Detroit News in 2020 that the incident happened after a white woman later identified as Jillian Wuestenberg bumped into Hill's teenage daughter as they were entering the restaurant and Wuestenberg was leaving with a carry-out order.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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So they bumped into some blacks, I'm willing to be it became an "in your face" confrontation with the blacks intimidating following the whites.
1 posted on 03/15/2023 4:02:24 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

white couple....Black family


2 posted on 03/15/2023 4:08:32 AM PDT by muglywump (Seven days without laughter makes one weak.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Absolutely, there is more to the story than is being told.


3 posted on 03/15/2023 4:10:25 AM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

There is probably security video showing what really happened, and the family was told by their lawyer to drop it.


4 posted on 03/15/2023 4:11:11 AM PDT by wbarmy (Trying to do better.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Note to innocents. Statistics support having dinner at home.


5 posted on 03/15/2023 4:11:42 AM PDT by anton
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Takelia Hill, who is Black

Who would've guessed ?!

6 posted on 03/15/2023 4:13:25 AM PDT by tomkat (SOTU = FUBAR)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Instead of a simple “excuse me” sufficing to deescalate the perceived intentional slight, it turned into something else.

I can just about sense the dynamic here. Someone felt disrespected.

The article is short on information. Probably makes no difference.


7 posted on 03/15/2023 4:13:55 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: GrumpyOldGuy

The white couple probably bumped a chair and the black was going to hospitalize them and leave them with permanent injuries, until the white couple pulled out a gun.


8 posted on 03/15/2023 4:23:39 AM PDT by Jonty30 (It is not how many that go into Mexico that counts. It is how many that return from Mexico.)
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“I’m willing to be it became an “in your face” confrontation”

In the country that I grew up in, we used to say ‘excuse me’.


9 posted on 03/15/2023 4:24:34 AM PDT by BobL
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Stop capitalizing black. It’s patronizing.


10 posted on 03/15/2023 4:28:19 AM PDT by Buck-Toothed Knuckle Dragger
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To: muglywump
"a white couple charged in 2020 after one of them was captured on video pulling a handgun on a Black woman "

Notice (as usual) the "w" is lower case while the "B" is capitalized.
11 posted on 03/15/2023 4:31:58 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Once again, Scott Adams is proven to be correct.


12 posted on 03/15/2023 4:35:13 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Defund the police. Prosecute self defense.


13 posted on 03/15/2023 4:35:46 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: wbarmy

That was my thought as well. Thing is, I can see this in my mind playing out a number of ways. The most likely one

The white woman rushing out with a picked-up order trying to get out the door, not paying attention, carrying food.

The kid playing around in the door and blocking the path or rushing in instead of being polite and respectful in a public place, the way some kids can be.

The white woman with some combination of rudeness or detachment coming through and making contact, not enough penitent contrition from the woman with the food.

The black woman yelling at the white woman who blew it off and kept waking.

Feeling “Disrespected”, the black woman chases them into the parking lot screaming obscenities threateningly and poking her finger at her.

The husband waiting gets out of the waiting car, more shouted profanity from both sides and gesturing. The wife gets in the car. More confrontation occurs.

The black woman gets her face an inch from the white guy’s face, contact takes place, out comes the gun.

Or some other variant, such as a racial epithet flung from the white woman at the kids or the screaming black woman, or the black woman screaming a racial epithet at the white woman. But the first variant sounds closest.

On initial analysis, I have no truck with whoever pulled the gun (they don’t say, but I bet it was the white man) but I wasn’t there and didn’t see what happened, so I have to reserve judgement on that. The black woman might have been saying threatening things and reached into her purse, who knows. They don’t tell us.

Stupidity all around.

Instead of a simple “Excuse me” from the white woman, or the black woman saying to her daughters “Get out of the way, don’t block the door followed by a “Sorry about that” from the black woman on behalf of her unthinking kids possibly being kids and nothing more, it turns into a felony case.

This is precisely what Barack Obama and the Left have done to race relations in this country. Exactly.


14 posted on 03/15/2023 4:40:43 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
It is just stupid, but wholly intentional on the part of the Left, of which the media is a major component.

Related to this, there was an interesting article at American Thinker LINK TO ARTICLE: "Thank you for Asking, Mr. President"

It was penned by a black woman who watched the funeral for Lynette “Diamond” Hardaway of Diamond and Silk fame. The funeral expenses were paid for entirely by Donald J. Trump, and the former President also attended the funeral, sitting alongside the Hardaway family. (from the article) An excerpt stated:


"...The closing speaker was of course, Donald J. Trump. He spoke about getting to know the Hardaway family, the Silk that he realized he didn’t know, and his commitment to addressing Black concerns. What was deemed most interesting in the President’s speech was when he humbly revealed that he didn’t know how to address us…. Black people.

At around the 3 hour and 50 minute mark the President reveals to the attendees that he always felt ignorant with regard to how to address the Black community.

“I always used to ask -- what do you like better -- African American?... Black? You know there are many different terms. They said “We like Black” -- because I was always saying “African American.”

Upon hearing this revelation, I could not help but admire his willingness to admit that he didn’t know, as well as having the humility to ask. I’d never heard a politician ask before. This is what sets Donald Trump apart from politicians. He is not a politician..."

Isn't that the truth. Any "normal" politician would have had an army of staffers handling all this with their style books for speeches and such, putting their finger in the air, triangulating, figuring out how not to step on anyone or make anything that might be classified as a transgression.

In Trump's case, he just spoke the way anyone would, and I can see him making that statement about the confusion, and simply asking. He, unlike nearly every damned polician, admits he doesn't know everything. And instead of being afraid to ask or otherwise reveal it in some way, he just asks the way a normal person would.

Surely, Trump inhabits the political space, but he is, in no way, any form of a traditional politician, that is for sure.

As for the question, I have never understood why describing someone as black is or was any kind of issue, and the article touches on that. For me, I use the term "black", and why not? I would refer to someone in context as white, hispanic, or Asian. And I wouldn't feel even the slightest offense if someone who was described in those fashions referred to me as white, even if they meant it in a derogatory sense, such as the fabled "white men can't dance". The article is an interesting one, I suggest reading it.

15 posted on 03/15/2023 4:59:18 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
It is just stupid, but wholly intentional on the part of the Left, of which the media is a major component.

Related to this, there was an interesting article at American Thinker LINK TO ARTICLE: "Thank you for Asking, Mr. President"

It was penned by a black woman who watched the funeral for Lynette “Diamond” Hardaway of Diamond and Silk fame. The funeral expenses were paid for entirely by Donald J. Trump, and the former President also attended the funeral, sitting alongside the Hardaway family. (from the article) An excerpt stated:


"...The closing speaker was of course, Donald J. Trump. He spoke about getting to know the Hardaway family, the Silk that he realized he didn’t know, and his commitment to addressing Black concerns. What was deemed most interesting in the President’s speech was when he humbly revealed that he didn’t know how to address us…. Black people.

At around the 3 hour and 50 minute mark the President reveals to the attendees that he always felt ignorant with regard to how to address the Black community.

“I always used to ask -- what do you like better -- African American?... Black? You know there are many different terms. They said “We like Black” -- because I was always saying “African American.”

Upon hearing this revelation, I could not help but admire his willingness to admit that he didn’t know, as well as having the humility to ask. I’d never heard a politician ask before. This is what sets Donald Trump apart from politicians. He is not a politician..."

Isn't that the truth. Any "normal" politician would have had an army of staffers handling all this with their style books for speeches and such, putting their finger in the air, triangulating, figuring out how not to step on anyone or make anything that might be classified as a transgression.

In Trump's case, he just spoke the way anyone would, and I can see him making that statement about the confusion, and simply asking. He, unlike nearly every damned polician, admits he doesn't know everything. And instead of being afraid to ask or otherwise reveal it in some way, he just asks the way a normal person would.

Surely, Trump inhabits the political space, but he is, in no way, any form of a traditional politician, that is for sure.

As for the question, I have never understood why describing someone as black is or was any kind of issue, and the article touches on that. For me, I use the term "black", and why not? I would refer to someone in context as white, hispanic, or Asian. And I wouldn't feel even the slightest offense if someone who was described in those fashions referred to me as white, even if they meant it in a derogatory sense, such as the fabled "white men can't dance". The article is an interesting one, I suggest reading it.

16 posted on 03/15/2023 4:59:18 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: BobL

Exactly. I still do, regardless of who I bump into, or who bumps into me.


17 posted on 03/15/2023 5:00:17 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: GrumpyOldGuy

The melanated person probably called her a white bitch and swung her purse at her.


18 posted on 03/15/2023 5:11:50 AM PDT by struggle
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To: muglywump

Yeah....the new style guide.


19 posted on 03/15/2023 5:16:39 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

It was.
The White woman was pregnant and carrying food.
No doubt, these negroes should be the ones charged.


20 posted on 03/15/2023 5:18:24 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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