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Michael Caine Blasts “xxxxxxxx” Criticism of ‘Zulu’
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Posted on 03/11/2023 10:11:08 AM PST by nickcarraway

Sir Michael Caine has responded to the claim that his 1964 film Zulu incites the far-right, calling it “XXXXXXXX”.

Earlier this year, the film was cited as a “key text” for “white nationalists/supremacists” during a review into the government’s counter-terrorism programme Prevent.

Speaking to The Spectator, Caine revealed he got the part of arrogant, inexperienced Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead in Zulu after playing “a cockney bloke in the West End in a play called Next Time I’ll Sing To You.”

“An American director who was in the audience saw me and gave me a part in the film Zulu as a posh officer. This made me a star and I never went back on the stage again,” said Caine.

Responding to the news that Zulu was named a piece of culture that “incites the far-right”, Caine said: “That is the biggest load of XXXXXXXX I have ever heard.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hollywood; michaelcaine; movies; woke; zulu
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To: Yo-Yo

***But the thing that sticks with me is the rear supply Sergeant who insisted that the soldiers drawing additional ammunition had to settle down and cue up properly.****

True. And the ammo boxes were held together with SCREWS and there were not enough screw drivers to open them.

In looking at some old Fredrick Remington paintings of the Indian Wars he shows a supply Sgt opening ammo box containers using a hammer as those boxes were nailed together and not screwed.


41 posted on 03/11/2023 11:10:09 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: Chainmail

The dualing singing watch between the Wales soldiers and the Zulu was worthy of an Oscar. Caines first major role and Stanley Baker was even better as the CO.( by one week, if I recall correctly)


42 posted on 03/11/2023 11:10:30 AM PST by mware ( )
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To: nickcarraway

Lieutenant John Chard: If it’s a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it’s a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.


43 posted on 03/11/2023 11:15:29 AM PST by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: Reily

A Man Call Horse, was also an episode of Wagon Train before Richard Harris starred in the movie. Wagon Train had some damn fine directors.


44 posted on 03/11/2023 11:16:45 AM PST by mware ( )
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To: nickcarraway
Really enjoyed that movie and thought Cain was the perfect choice.

Hated one thing so much, I have never watched it again...

One of Cain's last lines was that he felt ashamed after winning the battle.

That was so implausible, so absurd, that after several days of savage fighting Cain was ashamed that he and a small group of his men were still alive.

Completely ruined the movie, in my opinion.

I always wondered who wrote that line and who insisted that it had to be retained in the movie.

45 posted on 03/11/2023 11:18:21 AM PST by zeestephen (43,000)
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To: nickcarraway

The race of professional victims don’t like the movie because it shows how whites should defend themselves against hoards of angry out of control blacks.


46 posted on 03/11/2023 11:18:52 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: mware

Yes, that one i saw the Hugh Glass one I’ve only read about.

Agree 200% about Wagon Train directors. Back in the day when TV actually entertained.


47 posted on 03/11/2023 11:21:14 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily

Always felt they never awarded Ward Bond with an Emmy because of his stand on communism. Was president of actors guild during black listing.


48 posted on 03/11/2023 11:24:34 AM PST by mware ( )
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To: nickcarraway

“There are always some folks, in any kind of ‘cowboy vs Injun’, that will always get butthurt that the Injuns lost.”

100 and more British soldiers, in the hills and plains of Zulu territory, withstood an attack by 1000,s of Zulu warrors. That shows heroism on both sides where shields and assaguys met firearms with bayonets.
The British commander was informed of Zulu S.O.P., and thwarted them by refusing them the field, and raising bulwarks in a defensive stance to break their attacks as the surf on a rocky coast.

The Zulu chieftains, not unintelligible persons, adapted, but could not overcome the British.

They, then, so impressed, saluted them as warriors, and left them, peacably.

I have viewed this film several times. I find nothing to be butthurt about.

Lastly, I am of Mojave and white blood. If that does tweek you, woo woo woo woo!


49 posted on 03/11/2023 11:26:34 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: nickcarraway

I prefer this version.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=leg+bitten+off+monty+python&view=detail&mid=98E5CC01C171598255EB98E5CC01C171598255EB&FORM=VIRE


50 posted on 03/11/2023 11:56:23 AM PST by OSHA (The Constitution is a small box carefully crafted to keep government in. We let it escape.)
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To: nickcarraway
Yes, but also that the British military was hardly a formidable force on land.

They were always very well trained, but just much smaller than most of their continental competitors because Britain focused on its sea power. The Zulu wars and then the Boer War showed the limitations of that approach. In 1914 the Imperial General Staff already told the government that in any big European war the 100,000 men of the professional British army would be gone in a few months, and so it was.

51 posted on 03/11/2023 11:59:03 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: logi_cal869
A demonstration of technology and training vs sheer numbers and training. Two completely different armies fighting each other.

And in the end...IIRC, the Zulus respected the British and allowed them a chance to retreat from the battlefield.

52 posted on 03/11/2023 12:00:26 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: escapefromboston

“””Don’t know anything about the guy but I always liked Michael Caine as an actor, he seems like an alright sorta guy from interviews.”””

Micklewhite (Michael Caine) was sent to the front along the Samichon River Valley, where he fought the Chinese and North Koreans in raids and patrols, often at night. In 1953, he contracted malaria and was sent home.
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In 1951, he was called up to serve in the British Army.
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Nothing, he says, could have prepared him for what happened during his first watch on guard duty during the absolute darkness of the Korean night.

From his trench, the night was split open by enemy flares lighting up the battlefield and by the hordes of the enemy charging toward him. The first time he heard a Chinese trumpet break the stillness, he barely had time to ask his buddy what that was before hundreds of trumpets joined in.

“There in front of us, a terrifying tableau was illuminated,” he recalls. “Thousands of Chinese advancing toward our positions, led by troops of demonic trumpet players. The artillery opened up but they still came on, marching toward our machine guns and certain death.”

Caine describes the minefield they’d constructed to defend themselves from such a human wave as “suddenly irrelevant.” Wave after wave of Chinese infantry committed suicide, throwing themselves onto barbed wire so their bodies could be used as a bridge.

“They were eventually beaten off,” the actor says of the Chinese soldiers. “But they were insanely brave.”

After getting sent to war so early in his life, Caine came to believe that war ages kids well beyond their years. He and his mates were approaching 20 years old when they went to the front lines of Korea. On the way back, they encountered the units who would be replacing them.

“They were 19-year-olds, as we had been when we went in,” Caine says. “I looked at them and I looked at us, and we looked 10 years older than they did.”

The actor recalls the closest he came to death during the war, on a nighttime patrol in no man’s land. It was a moment that he says still haunts him to this day.

Three British troops covered themselves in mud and mosquito repellant in order to make their way deeper into the valley, an area they had been fighting to take for weeks. They were headed for the Chinese lines to try to gather information. On their way back to their own lines, they suddenly smelled garlic in the air.

“The Chinese ate garlic like chewing gum,” Caine says. “We realized we were being followed.”

The fusiliers threw themselves on the ground as a unit of Chinese pursuers began searching the brush for them. Rather than die in the weeds, the trio charged the enemy, guns blazing.

This incident comes back to the actor when others try to attack him or bring him down. He thinks about what happened on that hill in Korea, and realizes that no one could ever make him feel hopeless again.

“I just think, as I did on that Korean hillside, ‘You cannot frighten me or do anything to me, and if you try, I’ll take as much or as many of you with me as I can.’”

Listen to Actor Michael Caine Talk About Fighting in Korea
https://www.military.com/history/listen-actor-michael-caine-talk-about-fighting-korea.html


53 posted on 03/11/2023 12:06:29 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: nickcarraway

The problem I have with ‘Zulu’ is that they just showed the part where the Brits just had an initial, temporary victory over the Zulus and intentionally didn’t show how moments later Wakanda supersonic aircraft arrived to wipe out the British.


54 posted on 03/11/2023 12:07:14 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: nickcarraway

Great flick


55 posted on 03/11/2023 12:17:43 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: nickcarraway

Actually, If anything I think they were quite respectful toward the Zulu in how they were portrayed in that film.


56 posted on 03/11/2023 12:30:13 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: mad_as_he$$; Paal Gulli
Victor Davis Hanson wrote a wonderful account of the Battle of Rorke's Drift in his book Carnage and Culture. The entire book is a great read, but that chapter is the best of the best.
57 posted on 03/11/2023 12:31:33 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris events are called dodo ops)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s a wonderful film, on my list of top twenty of all time.


58 posted on 03/11/2023 12:43:15 PM PST by miserare ( Free Jacob Chansley!)
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To: Penelope Dreadful

Hah!


59 posted on 03/11/2023 12:47:26 PM PST by miserare ( Free Jacob Chansley!)
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To: Billthedrill

I just watched it for the first time last month after a FR post. Based on actual events. They hired locals. I think it was the locals that determined that people related to men that fought in the battle got first preference to be in the movie.


60 posted on 03/11/2023 12:51:02 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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