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Ukraine to produce high-precision Alder-m missiles
Ukrainian Military Center ^ | March 4, 2023 | Uncredited

Posted on 03/04/2023 6:26:22 AM PST by Zhang Fei

First Deputy Chairman of the National Association of the Military-Industrial Complex of Ukraine Ivan Vinnik announced the establishment of production of high-precision missiles "Alder".

He told The War Zone about this on Tuesday during the XV conference "Security Dialogue between the United States and Ukraine", which was held in Washington.

Ivan Vinnik said that now manufacturers are planning to modify the " alder-m "to increase its range to 150 km. He declined to specify when exactly the missiles might be ready and how many would be produced.

"Let's just say, we hope, just in time for a counteroffensive, the probability of which is expected in the south, in the direction of the Sea of Azov," he said. "The trials will take place on the battlefield."

In the meantime, the Alder rocket is operating at the front. A relatively new development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has already been tested in real combat operations against the Russian army.

"Yes, the Alder was used in combat operations," Vinnik said.

High accuracy of rockets, according to Vinnik, is ensured by the use of so — called “gas — dynamic rudders” - dozens of small transverse rocket engines-they help to correct the direction of flight of the rocket by GPS signal.

"Alder-m" is considered a fairly high-precision ammunition, but the manufacturer does not disclose the exact distance of the maximum permissible deviation of the rocket from the target.

According to some information, this distance can be 10-15 meters and this indicator does not depend on the range of the rocket shot.

If the range is increased, the Alder-M will have the same range as the GLSDB precision-guided bomb ordered by the United States, but with a much larger warhead and much higher kinetic energy.

Production of Alder rockets

Militarny wrote that Ukrainian high-precision missiles “Alder” (not to be confused with “alder-m”) began to be used against the invaders in March 2022.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out fifty guided missile launches against military targets of the Russian Federation. Defeats were inflicted by R-624” Alder " missiles, which were manufactured in small quantities by order of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

Presumably, all the stocks of these missiles were exhausted during the first months of combat operations, because in a short period of time reports of their use disappeared.

However, in recent months, evidence has again begun to emerge that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are using high-precision guided missiles "Olkha" against Russian strategic targets in the deep rear.

So, in March 2023, a photo appeared of a rocket part allegedly found near Donetsk, which can be accurately verified as an "alder" due to its characteristic gas-dynamic rudders. The fact that the photo was taken by civilians during the winter season also adds credibility.

In addition, earlier local residents of Belgorod published numerous photos of the wreckage of unknown missiles shot down, which in diameter, body thickness and color resemble parts of missiles from the 300-mm Smerch MLRS or Alder missiles developed on their basis.

Also recently, targets around occupied Mariupol were shelled for several nights. This city is located more than 80 kilometers from the nearest point of the line of contact.

Such a distance is on the verge of the capabilities of American high-precision GMLRS missiles, so we can assume that in this case it was precisely the corrected Alder missiles that were used.

The appearance in 2023 of evidence of the use of Alder missiles after a long pause may indicate the resumption of production of these missiles in the interests of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This assumption fits seamlessly into the general trend of increasing the work of the domestic military-industrial complex.

So, in recent months, the Ukroboronprom enterprise reported on the establishment of production of ammunition for artillery systems: 82-mm, 120-mm mortars and 122-mm and 1 52-mm howitzers.

In addition, it became known that the enterprises of the UOP massively supply the troops with upgraded T-72AMT tanks.

Military also reported that the first deliveries of serial Ukrainian self-propelled artillery units "Bogdan" are expected in the coming months.

"We have a very important Ukrainian "Bogdana". I have already signed the first contracts and they [manufacturers] are already promising to make the first deliveries in the coming months, " Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said about the order for new Ukrainian artillery systems.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alderm; another500billion; anothertrillion; himars; neocons4biden; russia; ukraine; ukrainecorruption; zelenskyworshippers
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1 posted on 03/04/2023 6:26:22 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

Our money at work...but not for us.


2 posted on 03/04/2023 6:31:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

HIMARS smart munitions have a 50 mile range. Ukraine is said to have developed smart munitions for their home-grown MLRS system with a 100 mile range. Not quite the ATACMS, which has a 200 mile range, but better than nothing.


3 posted on 03/04/2023 6:31:16 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Sacajaweau

[Our money at work...but not for us.]


We saved small amounts of money after WWI not getting involved in Europe. Then we spent the equivalent of $35T fighting WWII. And lost 400,000 dead. So there’s that. $50b a year vs $35T and hundred of thousands of dead GI’s? I’ll take door #1.


4 posted on 03/04/2023 6:39:11 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

the elusive “Russian victory” is like the Sasquatch

all the Russian shills assure us it’s out there, will show up soon, yet they can never produce any actual evidence it exists

Russia can’t win this ... their troops are getting slaughtered by thousands, billions of dollars spent and boatloads of equipment sacrificed, all to gain just a few miles of advance ...

and it’s another 500 miles to the Polish border ...


5 posted on 03/04/2023 6:41:48 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Zhang Fei

Where in the world is there a safe place in Ukraine to build a plant to produce that missile?


6 posted on 03/04/2023 6:42:28 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Zhang Fei

lol, you compare the little shithole Ukraine with WWII. One was a world war, the other is a corrupt little shithole that has been a parasite sense it’s inception. The world is going to be a much better place without Ukraine. Then we would do well to dissolve NATO.


7 posted on 03/04/2023 6:44:41 AM PST by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: JoSixChip

membership in NATO is voluntary

so members can leave any time they want

but we don’t see any countries leaving, do we?

guess they still consider Russia a hostile menace ... so, NATO won’t be disbanding anytime soon, as long as Russia keeps invading countries


8 posted on 03/04/2023 6:49:25 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: antidemoncrat

[Where in the world is there a safe place in Ukraine to build a plant to produce that missile?]


I’ve heard that in the interest of limiting the damage from air strikes, production is distributed. Not efficient, but necessary.


9 posted on 03/04/2023 6:49:36 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: antidemoncrat

Good point. One cruise missile and no more factory.


10 posted on 03/04/2023 6:50:32 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Zhang Fei

The Russians would never dare to strike the missile plant.


11 posted on 03/04/2023 6:52:47 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: JoSixChip
Wow - you guys in Moscow are getting cranky. Well, OK, crankier.

1. It's a very large and wealthy "shithole" and

2. It's their own shithole, not Russia's.

Invading your neighbors is really bad - Понятно?

12 posted on 03/04/2023 6:54:40 AM PST by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: Zhang Fei; PIF
...manufacturers are planning to modify the " alder-m "to increase its range to 150 km.

I believe the 150km version has been used to attack targets at Yeysk airbase in Russia.

Below is a picture:

High accuracy of rockets is ensured by “gas — dynamic rudders” - they correct the direction of flight of the rocket by GPS signal.

Below is a picture of the “gas — dynamic rudders”.


13 posted on 03/04/2023 6:59:46 AM PST by FtrPilot
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To: McGruff

“Good point. One cruise missile and no more factory.”

What missiles? The Russians used their cruise missiles up in the first weeks of the war.

They then used their extra anti-ship and anti-air missiles in the total failure of a campaign to to turn our the lights.

The Russian’s haven’t launched a major missile strike since Jan 1st.


14 posted on 03/04/2023 7:05:25 AM PST by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: Zhang Fei

May Ukraine succeed in building and deploying these missiles


15 posted on 03/04/2023 7:10:16 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Zhang Fei

If such missiles are actually produced within the territorial limits of Ukraine, then they will be targets and toast once the Ruskies figure it out.

Loose lips sink ships. With that said, just why are these clowns bragging about this? If these are in fact superior weapons being produced by Ukraine, the only ones that should know about this are those making the missiles and those receiving them.


16 posted on 03/04/2023 7:17:44 AM PST by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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To: antidemoncrat; McGruff; DesertRhino
Where in the world is there a safe place in Ukraine to build a plant to produce that missile?

why not underground ... put it in an old salt mine or potash mine

the Germans did that, managed to produce THOUSANDS of V-2s in late 1944, even though the Allies had already landed in France and totally controlled the skies

Russia can't do jack to stop it


17 posted on 03/04/2023 7:19:38 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: antidemoncrat

Underground


18 posted on 03/04/2023 7:32:09 AM PST by grwcfl537
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To: antidemoncrat
Its a mix of distributed production, limits of Russian intelligence and targeting, Ukriane's defense and effectiveness of attack.

During World War II, Germany built 35,000 BF-109s, 14,000 of them in 1944. They distributed production, plus "high altitude precision bombing" was often better at getting bomber crews killed then disrupting production. Geographically, Ukraine controls 80% of their land, when Ukraine is about the size of Texas. That's a lot of area hide production.

Russia dumped a lot of cruise missiles into power plants and apartments, not directly military related targets. This shows that Russian intelligence has a hard time finding what the US and NATO would consider a strategic military target to attack. Ukraine is attacking airfields, naval seaports, oil depots, munition depots, what the west thinks of as military targets, not apartments.

Ukraine's air defenses are really good, regularly shooting down over 75% of all cruise missiles and drones. One or two hits to a larger production facility is not going to shut down production for long.

19 posted on 03/04/2023 7:41:19 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: JoSixChip

Putin is doing the world a favor by dismantling the NWO/NATO/EU money laundering, drug and sex trafficking operation. If you want to know how deep the US cabal is involved in this crime syndicate ask yourself what in the holy heckoli are the US Treasury Secretary and the US Attorney General doing traveling to the Ukraine? What possible reason would they have to go there?


20 posted on 03/04/2023 7:41:20 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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