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Hungary’s Viktor Orbán plays spoilsport on NATO accession for Finland, Sweden
POLITICO ^ | February 28, 2023 | Suzanne Lynch

Posted on 02/28/2023 10:55:45 PM PST by McGruff

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To: rb22982

You know what, you’re absolutely right.

The USA should leave NATO and every other international forum. Give up the seat on the UN Security Council too - it’s not needed if you’re retiring from your world policeman role.

Oh, and since globalisation and getting involved in proxy wars is so bad, why not go the whole hog and stop exporting arms.

The USA as the new Switzerland sounds mighty appealing. Europe can sort its act out, pay for its own defense, and fight Russian expansion westwards on its own dime.

Of course, don’t come crying to us Europeans for handouts you don’t really need, the next time you want

1. the Frogs to prop up a secession (maybe that’s where Zelenskyy got his grifting strategy from!)

2. International banking for a grossly disproportionate response to a wealthy Saudi dripping with American schmoozers plotted to hijack planes and crash them into American landmarks... Where you knew it was the Saudis behind the atrocities but chickened out of attacking them and decided to go after Iraq and Afghanistan instead.

There’s no downside, if America leaves EU-NATO. EU NATO without the USA is far less likely to end up in a forever war with Russia.


61 posted on 03/01/2023 5:04:41 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: bert

Post #9 is for you.

When are you leaving to fight ? Will ANY of you trolls actually fight for your lord and savior, George Soros ? Naah, too easy to just type away on your computer, thinking your deranged chickenhawk viewpoint will sway any but your fellow trollbots.

Carry on.


62 posted on 03/01/2023 5:05:05 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I have to laugh at all these Freepers who have been sodomized by their own government for the last three years … and are now clamoring for that same government to piss away our money fighting someone else’s battle thousands of miles away.


63 posted on 03/01/2023 5:05:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: canuck_conservative

Hit a nerve, eh, hoser ? Go watch some mushroom cloud porn and bring a box of kleenex so you don’t make a mess of your keyboard.


64 posted on 03/01/2023 5:06:21 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
What part of “repelling Russian aggression against the U.S.” is so beyond your comprehension ?

Putin’s one-two punch European strategy to defeat America

You appeaseniks hate your country so much that you would really would rather live under dictatorial Russian and ChiCom rule than under an American government, imperfect as it is.

65 posted on 03/01/2023 5:06:30 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Alberta's Child

I absolutely believe these are paid globalist agitator trolls. A whole group of them seem to coordinate their attacks. Same spam, same hate, same agenda. Notice they have no interest in defending America’s borders.


66 posted on 03/01/2023 5:08:44 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
So when are you leaving for the Ukraine to fight, chickenhawk ?

Its not my country to defend.

Not surprised you descended into name calling, arguing NATO is the barrier to peace in Europe, not an invading Putin is ridiculous. As to "chickehawk", its funny that that label was first used by liberals to bash supporters of Reagan.

67 posted on 03/01/2023 5:08:52 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Timber Rattler

Get back to me when you’re interested in defending America’s borders.


68 posted on 03/01/2023 5:09:38 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: tlozo

Reagan brought down the Communist Soviet Union. Did you get the memo ? It happened 32 years ago, exactly when NATO’s mission was accomplished and needed to shut down.


69 posted on 03/01/2023 5:11:11 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Blah blah blah lie lie lie yada yada yada

Like I said...... your baton and the self proclaimed rank are fake


70 posted on 03/01/2023 5:13:28 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: MalPearce

The US absolutely should leave all of those other groups. Why would we stop ARMs sales? We benefit from that. Adding trillion bucks to our debt every single year plus the interest on all the other trillions we’ve already added, does not benefit us. The US has been going into debt for decades to protect western europe while you all spent 1% of your budget on military while we spent 15%. If you want protection you should pay for it, period.


71 posted on 03/01/2023 5:13:31 AM PST by rb22982
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To: Alberta's Child

Agreed 100%


72 posted on 03/01/2023 5:14:12 AM PST by rb22982
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Did you get the memo ? It happened 32 years ago, exactly when NATO’s mission was accomplished and needed to shut down.

No, I didn't get the memo that wars of aggression in Europe ended. Did you get the memo that showed Putin was trying to invade/take over a European capitol?

73 posted on 03/01/2023 5:15:20 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: bert
"Blah blah blah lie lie lie yada yada yada"

Yup, that's about the long and short of your intellectual contributions here to FR.

74 posted on 03/01/2023 5:19:26 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: tlozo

How well does getting involved in foreign civil wars go for us ? Like I said, you get back to me when you’re interested in fighting for our own actual sacred borders. Have a nice day.


75 posted on 03/01/2023 5:21:10 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If you cheer on Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, then you are a WW3 cheerleader.

I don’t cheer on Pooptin - but you do, don’t you?


76 posted on 03/01/2023 5:30:19 AM PST by Cronos
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To: fieldmarshaldj
How well does getting involved in foreign civil wars go for us ?

There is a reason that after the 2022 INVASION of Ukraine by Putin, historically neutral countries to the conflict like Germany and France, started sending weapons to Ukraine. No one was buying the idea of "civil war" or that Putin was trying to save ethnic Russians. It was a clear invasion of a neighboring European country.

fighting for our own actual sacred border

Right, so if we didn't send the 100 billion(mostly weapons) to Ukraine, Biden was going to use that money to secure our borders. Really?

77 posted on 03/01/2023 5:30:43 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: canuck_conservative; fieldmarshaldj
Russia needs to be de-militarized in the name of international peace and safety Slava Ukraini!

It's a good thing that other reasonable, sensible Canadians post here. Otherwise the world would think all Canadians were simple minded.

78 posted on 03/01/2023 5:34:14 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: Cronos

79 posted on 03/01/2023 5:36:40 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: tlozo
"There is a reason that after the 2022 INVASION of Ukraine by Putin, historically neutral countries to the conflict like Germany and France, started sending weapons to Ukraine. No one was buying the idea of "civil war" or that Putin was trying to save ethnic Russians. It was a clear invasion of a neighboring European country."

None. Of. Our. Business.

"Right, so if we didn't send the 100 billion(mostly weapons) to Ukraine, Biden was going to use that money to secure our borders. Really?"

I get it. You don't care about securing American borders.

80 posted on 03/01/2023 5:38:14 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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