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To Marjorie Taylor Greene: We Don’t Need A ‘National Divorce,’ We Need More Federalism
The Federalist ^ | 02/21/2023 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 02/21/2023 10:03:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Marjorie Taylor Greene says the country needs a national divorce. “We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government,” she tweeted. “Everyone I talk to says this. From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrat’s traitorous America Last policies, we are done.”

Generally speaking, I’m sympathetic to the idea that the political left is congenitally unable to accept a truly diverse nation. Virtually every legislative policy proposal from modern Democrats — and every policy issued by edict — strengthens federal power and economic control over states. Modern Democrats are champions of direct democracy, in an effort to undercut the choices of local communities and individuals. When they don’t get their way, the permanent D.C. bureaucracy steps in to circumvent the will of states. And when courts stop them, Democrats delegitimize and work to weaken the judiciary. This week, Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., argued states should simply disregard the Supreme Court when they don’t agree with a decision. Ignoring the division of power is far more likely to cause a national schism than any Greene tweet.

None of that means a “national divorce” — really succession, since other states are unlikely to concede to a split — isn’t a reckless thing for someone who took a vow to defend the Constitution to advocate. Even if we took a moment to seriously contemplate the idea, how would it be achieved? We aren’t separated ideologically into large geographic regions or even states, but rather urban, suburban, and rural areas. Conservatives like to share that map showing virtually the entire country painted in electoral red — and it matters more than Democrats like to admit. But we can’t discount that density also matters. A “national divorce” would create even smaller minorities and divisions, but little difference in the way of policy.  (How are the Greenes going to shrink the government when they won’t even reform entitlements?)

For that matter, where will Greene’s Georgia, which Joe Biden won in 2020 and now has two left-wing senators, end up in this split? How about purple states like Virginia or New Hampshire? Will we have 50 separate referendums? Will there be population exchanges like the one India and Pakistan undertook in 1947? If history is any indication, it’s the kind of situation that leads to political violence and economic ruin.

And, you know, you already have the freedom to move about the nation and find a place that suits your lifestyle and politics. That’s one of the reasons we’re a place that has room for a progressive vegan, the evangelical conservative farmer, the suburban moderate, and everyone in between.

During the past 42 years, the federal government has been divided for 30 of them. Over the past three presidencies, the president’s party lost at least one house after only two years. The instinct of the American public is to split power. The organic state of a divided nation is glorious gridlock — which is why the 10th Amendment exists. Now, it’s also true that leftists struggle with the notion of letting people in red states think, speak, and live in ways they dislike. There is a national political and cultural effort to homogenize us. And when Republicans appropriate the existing local power Democrats have used for decades to implement their own choices — as Ron DeSantis has done in Florida — leftists act as if we’re on the precipice of a dictatorship. But they have no power to stop him. Only Florida voters do. This is why federalism exists. It is why some states thrive and others don’t. And federalism is not only a more desirable solution than breaking the country into two, but also far more feasible.

It’s also worth noting that political divisions aren’t static. People can be persuaded. Events change perceptions. It is very likely that our kids and grandkids are going to face a different set of problems and divisions. Are we going to split into four in 50 years?

None of this is to argue there aren’t serious problems facing the nation, but Big Tech’s relentless highlighting of every decisive moment, every rabid voice, and every radical position clouds our view of reality. The nastier and crazier you pretend to be, the more misleading your tweets, and the more partisan you act, the more followers you can expect. The incentive of social media success is corrosive. Most of it just exacerbates political divisions.

In the real world, you probably live in proximity to plenty of people with different religious, cultural, and ideological values, yet, despite what you’ve heard, we’re a nation with negligible political violence. In many ways, despite the mess politicians have made, our lives are better than ever. Let’s keep it that way.


David Harsanyi is a senior editor at The Federalist, a nationally syndicated columnist, a Happy Warrior columnist at National Review, and author of five books—the most recent, Eurotrash: Why America Must Reject the Failed Ideas of a Dying Continent. He has appeared on Fox News, C-SPAN, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, ABC World News Tonight, NBC Nightly News and radio talk shows across the country.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
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To: SeekAndFind

“None of that means a ‘national divorce’ — really succession, since other states are unlikely to concede to a split — isn’t a reckless thing for someone who took a vow to defend the Constitution to advocate.”

If you’re going to write an entire article against secession, at least spell it correctly.


41 posted on 02/21/2023 12:05:19 PM PST by unlearner (RIP America. July 4, 1776 - December 13, 2022. )
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To: Golden Eagle

Of course we don’t need a National Divorce. But, we do need MTG to speak like this to bring the issues to light. You think Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell can speak out like this. We need Bobert and Green and the few men with testicles in Congress to speak like this to show how radically wrong the left is and what it could lead to.


42 posted on 02/21/2023 12:12:28 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: TakebackGOP
Ridiculous comments from a sitting Congresswoman.

+1

Republican party & MTG --- do your job! Stop the rhetoric intended to incite but fixes nothing. Fix this broken republic by winning elections and taking power from democrats!!

43 posted on 02/21/2023 12:18:52 PM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; 1malumprohibitum; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.
44 posted on 02/21/2023 12:32:20 PM PST by Twotone
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To: WalkerinSC
"Not sure who sounds more unhinged, MTG or that post you just made."

This is the kind of response one would expect from a Demonicrat, not from a Free Republic poster.

45 posted on 02/21/2023 12:32:48 PM PST by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: SeekAndFind
Proof read: He used the word succession instead of secession

My job here is done

46 posted on 02/21/2023 1:04:40 PM PST by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: JesusIsLord

“Fix this broken republic by winning elections and taking power from democrats!!” Great idea-but it is now impossible to have a cheat-free vote to to take anything back-least of all power, since too many conservatives were lulled into false security by Rinos and neocons, thus enabling the uniparty and corruption to drag us to hell-so too late for any fair elections that are not fraudulent...

That is what happens when conservatives wring their hands as they tell the rest of us not to swear or be mean and to just go along with decorum, as graceful losers-sorry-no more, no way-now that we have seen what Pres Trump can do with the application of a FU attitude and a verbal flamethrower-and Kevin McCarthy seems to be taking his balls out of his wife’s purse and listening to us, we are encouraged to speak up and not shut up-getting along and being nice is not standing for anything, and now democrats even target Christians and Jews. “Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas”-is as true now as it was then-better than spilling blood is just splitting assets fairly, let people move where their views are respected and split states to reflect it-eventually, we may get together again, but it is a toxic relationship right now...


47 posted on 02/21/2023 1:10:47 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: TakebackGOP

Anyone who has been paying attention to what’s been going on, especially in the last few years, and doesn’t recognize that something at least as drastic as secession needs to be considered is a blind fool.


48 posted on 02/21/2023 1:18:58 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Tench_Coxe

“..You need to repeal the 16th and 17th amendments to start....”

^THAT^ right there would definitely get this SOBs’ attention....


49 posted on 02/21/2023 1:55:12 PM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: SPDSHDW

SPDSHDW wrote: “Assets will go to the states they are in.”

Not that simple. Some assets can be moved. Army, Navy, AF and others. Wealth can be transfered.


50 posted on 02/21/2023 1:55:43 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: SPDSHDW

That makes Colorado, Nebraska, Wyoming, N. Dakota, Montana, Georgia, Washington and Connecticut super powers!

Well, at least the owners of most of the current US nuclear arsenal, lol.


51 posted on 02/21/2023 1:58:04 PM PST by skepsel ("A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime", Mark Twain.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Unfortunately, I believe you are correct. Where most of us just want them to leave us alone and quit trying to groom the kids; they absolutely want us dead and gone. You cannot reason with that.


52 posted on 02/21/2023 4:09:25 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: fr_freak

She already gets criticized enough.


53 posted on 02/21/2023 4:57:02 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
YOU did not put in the work.

Yep that is how Biden defeated the best President in 100 years, he put in the work.

54 posted on 02/21/2023 5:15:31 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: JesusIsLord
Fix this broken republic by winning elections and taking power from democrats!!

You can't win fixed elections and corrupt courts will not let you prove they are fixed. General Flynn had a great article today. General Flynn had a great article today.

55 posted on 02/21/2023 5:19:37 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Carl Vehse

No, it sounds like a response from someone who sees politicians calling for the dissolution of the Union and people calling for the execution of political enemies as hyperbolic unhinged twits.


56 posted on 02/21/2023 5:33:33 PM PST by WalkerinSC
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To: itsahoot
Nope.

And nope.

But that is ok.

I know you don't understand what I meant.

57 posted on 02/21/2023 5:42:45 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: DugwayDuke

yes they can be moved, but for ease of divorce it makes more sense to leave it all where it is.


58 posted on 02/21/2023 6:21:09 PM PST by SPDSHDW (Ya’ll knew he was installed via fraud, and chose to do nothing. Enjoy the roller coaster ride.)
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To: WalkerinSC

No. I called for the trial, conviction, and sentencing of people whose actions give aid and comfort to the domestic and foreign enemies of the United States.


59 posted on 02/21/2023 7:53:39 PM PST by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: TakebackGOP

Yeah, but the naive people who still think we should be playing by 1950s rules of civility while the globalists run roughshod over us don’t get criticized enough. I’m glad her comments show us which ones those are.


60 posted on 02/21/2023 9:27:43 PM PST by fr_freak
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