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To Marjorie Taylor Greene: We Don’t Need A ‘National Divorce,’ We Need More Federalism
The Federalist ^ | 02/21/2023 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 02/21/2023 10:03:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Marjorie Taylor Greene says the country needs a national divorce. “We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government,” she tweeted. “Everyone I talk to says this. From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrat’s traitorous America Last policies, we are done.”

Generally speaking, I’m sympathetic to the idea that the political left is congenitally unable to accept a truly diverse nation. Virtually every legislative policy proposal from modern Democrats — and every policy issued by edict — strengthens federal power and economic control over states. Modern Democrats are champions of direct democracy, in an effort to undercut the choices of local communities and individuals. When they don’t get their way, the permanent D.C. bureaucracy steps in to circumvent the will of states. And when courts stop them, Democrats delegitimize and work to weaken the judiciary. This week, Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., argued states should simply disregard the Supreme Court when they don’t agree with a decision. Ignoring the division of power is far more likely to cause a national schism than any Greene tweet.

None of that means a “national divorce” — really succession, since other states are unlikely to concede to a split — isn’t a reckless thing for someone who took a vow to defend the Constitution to advocate. Even if we took a moment to seriously contemplate the idea, how would it be achieved? We aren’t separated ideologically into large geographic regions or even states, but rather urban, suburban, and rural areas. Conservatives like to share that map showing virtually the entire country painted in electoral red — and it matters more than Democrats like to admit. But we can’t discount that density also matters. A “national divorce” would create even smaller minorities and divisions, but little difference in the way of policy.  (How are the Greenes going to shrink the government when they won’t even reform entitlements?)

For that matter, where will Greene’s Georgia, which Joe Biden won in 2020 and now has two left-wing senators, end up in this split? How about purple states like Virginia or New Hampshire? Will we have 50 separate referendums? Will there be population exchanges like the one India and Pakistan undertook in 1947? If history is any indication, it’s the kind of situation that leads to political violence and economic ruin.

And, you know, you already have the freedom to move about the nation and find a place that suits your lifestyle and politics. That’s one of the reasons we’re a place that has room for a progressive vegan, the evangelical conservative farmer, the suburban moderate, and everyone in between.

During the past 42 years, the federal government has been divided for 30 of them. Over the past three presidencies, the president’s party lost at least one house after only two years. The instinct of the American public is to split power. The organic state of a divided nation is glorious gridlock — which is why the 10th Amendment exists. Now, it’s also true that leftists struggle with the notion of letting people in red states think, speak, and live in ways they dislike. There is a national political and cultural effort to homogenize us. And when Republicans appropriate the existing local power Democrats have used for decades to implement their own choices — as Ron DeSantis has done in Florida — leftists act as if we’re on the precipice of a dictatorship. But they have no power to stop him. Only Florida voters do. This is why federalism exists. It is why some states thrive and others don’t. And federalism is not only a more desirable solution than breaking the country into two, but also far more feasible.

It’s also worth noting that political divisions aren’t static. People can be persuaded. Events change perceptions. It is very likely that our kids and grandkids are going to face a different set of problems and divisions. Are we going to split into four in 50 years?

None of this is to argue there aren’t serious problems facing the nation, but Big Tech’s relentless highlighting of every decisive moment, every rabid voice, and every radical position clouds our view of reality. The nastier and crazier you pretend to be, the more misleading your tweets, and the more partisan you act, the more followers you can expect. The incentive of social media success is corrosive. Most of it just exacerbates political divisions.

In the real world, you probably live in proximity to plenty of people with different religious, cultural, and ideological values, yet, despite what you’ve heard, we’re a nation with negligible political violence. In many ways, despite the mess politicians have made, our lives are better than ever. Let’s keep it that way.


David Harsanyi is a senior editor at The Federalist, a nationally syndicated columnist, a Happy Warrior columnist at National Review, and author of five books—the most recent, Eurotrash: Why America Must Reject the Failed Ideas of a Dying Continent. He has appeared on Fox News, C-SPAN, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, ABC World News Tonight, NBC Nightly News and radio talk shows across the country.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
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1 posted on 02/21/2023 10:03:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Coexistence isn’t possible: the other side wants to kill us. We aren’t going to continue as 50 states.


2 posted on 02/21/2023 10:08:00 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: SeekAndFind
In theory the author is correct.

But given the current climate I have doubts as to whether that that is possible. The woke mob now controls the Democrat party. Federalism is the last thing they want and they are willing to die in order to prevent it. Sorry, don't mean to be overly dramatic but I am calling it as I see it

3 posted on 02/21/2023 10:10:47 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (The “only Trumpers” are just as damaging to the conservative cause as are the “never Trumpers”)
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To: SeekAndFind
None of that means a “national divorce” — really succession, since other states are unlikely to concede to a split — isn’t a reckless thing for someone who took a vow to defend the Constitution to advocate.

Really?

4 posted on 02/21/2023 10:14:01 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: SeekAndFind

You need to repeal the 16th and 17th amendments to start.


5 posted on 02/21/2023 10:19:30 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think you are correct.


6 posted on 02/21/2023 10:22:06 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: SeekAndFind

Kill the Federal Reserve, and everything will fix itself.

Printed, fiat, centrally-controlled money, manipulated interest-rates and the massive Fed.gov, leftist social-engineering it supports - are the entire power of leftists. It allows for total centralization of power (and grift) within Washington DC


7 posted on 02/21/2023 10:22:32 AM PST by PGR88 (, )
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Ridiculous comments from a sitting Congresswoman.


8 posted on 02/21/2023 10:25:29 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: SeekAndFind

Evil forces want the US divided, so it can be conquered.

I’m not saying MTG is evil, but she is incredibly wrong on this issue, if that’s truly what she wants. And few issues would be bigger than a separation of the “United States.”


9 posted on 02/21/2023 10:26:16 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who believes it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like all divorces, the property settlement will be a bitch.
Who will inherit the debt, the responsibility to pay medicare, social security, federal pensions, etc.
Who gets the Army, the Navy, the Air Force?


10 posted on 02/21/2023 10:27:54 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obviously CA, OR and WA would be first to go.

I am a great admirer of MTG, but in this case she is very wrong.

The first thing that would happen is that those states would be taken over by the Chinese, one way or another, and that would be the first step in the invasion and destruction of our country.

The better way to handle the crazy states would be to declare martial law in those states only and take them over by the US government in a manner similar to the Civil War.


11 posted on 02/21/2023 10:31:43 AM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We don’t need a national divorce! We just need to have 537 elected officials who have the balls to retire the 23million non-elected government employees! If they can’t reign in the 23+million then we need a new set of 537 elected officials!


12 posted on 02/21/2023 10:33:04 AM PST by eeriegeno (Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Americans need Traitojoe and his kakistocrats to be tried, convicted, and sentenced to publicly become one-time rope testers for giving aid and comfort to the domestic and foreign enemies of the United States.


13 posted on 02/21/2023 10:33:09 AM PST by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: DugwayDuke

Assets will go to the states they are in.

Debt division is another deal together though


14 posted on 02/21/2023 10:33:39 AM PST by SPDSHDW (Ya’ll knew he was installed via fraud, and chose to do nothing. Enjoy the roller coaster ride.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem is that centralizing all power is THE main tenet of the Leftist religion. Ergo, they will never agree to decentralize power - which in America’s case means returning powers to the states which the federal government usurped.

Thus, a national divorce makes the most sense. Otherwise, it will come to bloodshed.


15 posted on 02/21/2023 10:41:02 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

Just as the Confederates Seceded from the IS, the left has seceded from the US. THEY are the Neo- Confedrates.


16 posted on 02/21/2023 10:41:32 AM PST by cowboyusa (There is no co- existence with Pinks and Reds)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, maybe a national divorce from Marjorie Taylor Greene...


17 posted on 02/21/2023 10:42:33 AM PST by BlackAdderess (Representatives are supposed to represent their constituents, that is their job. )
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To: SeekAndFind

If you really want a civil war just try to implement true federalsism.

The left will not allow it.


18 posted on 02/21/2023 10:43:13 AM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: Carl Vehse

Not sure who sounds more unhinged, MTG or that post you just made.


19 posted on 02/21/2023 10:43:21 AM PST by WalkerinSC
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To: FLT-bird
It would not be like the 1st Civil War, it would be like Missouri. Horrible, but mabey unavoidable.
20 posted on 02/21/2023 10:43:37 AM PST by cowboyusa (There is no co- existence with Pinks and Reds)
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