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Tylenol After Surgery? Why The Feds Make Patients Suffer Needless Pain
cash.org ^ | Feb 16, 2023 | Josh Bloom

Posted on 02/16/2023 9:00:24 PM PST by anthropocene_x

A decade ago, most people thought of Tylenol (acetaminophen) as a medicine for fever, malaise and minor aches and pains. Nobody imagined that it would become the go-to drug for treating moderate, let alone severe, postoperative pain.

But this is just what has happened. Thanks to pressure from lawmakers, government agencies and policymakers who inserted themselves into the patient-doctor relationship, patients became the victims of the never-ending war on drugs.

Now, doctors frequently offer only acetaminophen to treat painful conditions despite the drug’s inability to remedy them.

Policymakers’ exaggerated fear of opioids has pressured hospitals, doctors and dentists to switch to acetaminophen, no matter how severe the patient's pain. Sometimes, the drug is given intravenously in high doses as part of "opioid-sparing protocols." We believe using the drug in this way is ill-advised, cruel and borders on malpractice.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: acetaminophen; biden; cartels; drugdealers; drugdeaths; government; junkies; medicine; opiod; opiodsparing; pain; tylenol
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To: anthropocene_x
Policymakers’ exaggerated fear of opioids has pressured hospitals, doctors and dentists to switch to acetaminophen, no matter how severe the patient's pain. Sometimes, the drug is given intravenously in high doses as part of "opioid-sparing protocols." We believe using the drug in this way is ill-advised, cruel and borders on malpractice.

They hate us. This same government is the one giving free illegal drugs and enabling addicts to continue their drug abuse and then in the name of compassion and caring for our health and risk of becoming addicted, make the average, law abiding, tax paying citiozen sufer needlessly.

41 posted on 02/17/2023 1:00:07 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Brian Griffin

“He felt his opioids were ineffective at relieving his pain”.

Same here. I ended up confused and suffering at the same time.

With kidney stones, Oxycodone sorta worked, but they had to be taken immediately when a kidney stone was “on the move”.

When I took one when (ultimately) NOT needed, I was transported to Nirvana!


42 posted on 02/17/2023 1:02:34 AM PST by Does so (What distinguishes today's Russian aggression from that of the USSR?)
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To: metmom

I wonder myself if the leftist media ginned up the opioid “crisis” as a way to “thin the herd.” The great majority of older Americans are Christian, Republican, and white. Banning or restricting effective pain relievers might make such “reactionary bourgeoise” forego life extending surgery. Or even choose “assisted suicide” rather than endure terrible pain.

[flame suit on] President Trump should have known better than to jump on the “progressive” media opioid “crisis” bandwagon. Trump trusted the “scientific community,” the talking heads, and elements of the deep state (including the Pentagon) a little too much. Not as much as the Bushes, McCain, Romney, and so on, mind you. But still, too much.


43 posted on 02/17/2023 2:25:59 AM PST by Big Brother Go to Hell
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

I was just to my Doctor several weeks ago. Complaint was a burning pain on outside of my leg and a BP check. Doc told me the tylenol wouldn’t be effective as it doesn’t relieve inflammation. Prescribed naproxen for 2 weeks to help. Thought it would mess with my BP, Doc said it was ok for short period of time.

People conflate the two type of pain relievers he said. If you have inflammation causing the problem, tylenol won’t help.


44 posted on 02/17/2023 2:43:29 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon)
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To: anthropocene_x

You will own nothing, be miserable, and like it. I had my second bridge sawed in half two years ago, on one side of my mouth, and I was in so much pain that I won’t get it replaced, again. The new dentist would give me nothing for pain after the clearing of infection. Oral pain is the absolute worst. That small gap is going to stay the way it is. No one can see it, and I’m not going through that hell, again. My other teeth are healthy.


45 posted on 02/17/2023 2:48:20 AM PST by sumuam
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To: Brian Griffin

This article is deceptive. I’m a physician who treats back pain and other muscle-skeletal injuries. There’s good data out, and it matches with what I see clinically, that Tylenol for mild to moderate acute injuries is equal or superior to opioids.

Every time I post this, I get angry posts and private replies from the many people on this forum who are on chronic opioids for their pain. I really do feel bad about the daily discomfort they have, but daily opioids cure nothing, in fact, chronic use sensitizes you to pain, whereby as the drug wears off, your pain returns with greater intensity, thus the need to increase the dose and frequency,

There are people trying to work with pain, who are taking up to 3 to 4 strong opioids per day.

But, don’t take my word for it. Next time you hurt your back and you’re in too much pain to exercise or engage in PT, try two adult Tylenol three to four times per day, (you won’t need much), and see what happens.

It’s a great painkiller. Better than aspirin? Probably not.

Anyway, that’s my thought.


46 posted on 02/17/2023 3:28:15 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Brian Griffin

My dentist told me the same thing.


47 posted on 02/17/2023 3:32:09 AM PST by corlorde
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Ibuprofen decimated kidneys to the extent that the manufacturers dropped recommended dosage on box to about one half of previous.


48 posted on 02/17/2023 3:37:40 AM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: cpdiii

Every od that comes in the ED has a Tylenol level pulled and gets antidote.


49 posted on 02/17/2023 3:39:13 AM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: metmom

Precisely. Kill as many people as you can with limitless drug availability in the Pacific Northwest, but guarantee suffering to tens of million of others.

This is just where they want us...desperate enough for pain control to seek dangerous alternatives.

Georgia is seeking a ban on kratom, a very effective plant product. I used to respect FDA recommendations but after reading the blurb on kratom I recognize it’s all empty verbiage.

I used to like the 8 mg. codeine / 325 mg. aspirin sold in Canada. Very effective for what I call soft tissue pain, like menstrual pain and skin injuries. Aspirin + codeine is 1+1=3.

Also liked darvocet, before it was pulled due to heart damage. I bet the profile of damage it caused is <1% of covid vax injury.


50 posted on 02/17/2023 4:05:48 AM PST by F450-V10
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To: Brian Griffin

“I think the combination was acetaminophen and ibuprofen.”

That is my regimen now that I am off opioids. I take a Duexus, which is 800 mg of ibuprofen and three Tylenol. Works like a champ.


51 posted on 02/17/2023 4:38:57 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (“Racist” is the new “Nazi”.)
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To: anthropocene_x

People with gout: Pain, you say?


52 posted on 02/17/2023 4:41:15 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: anthropocene_x

ES Tylenol is what I took after hip replacement. It worked.


53 posted on 02/17/2023 4:48:28 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“There really is no good reason to take Tylenol unless you are allergic to all the alternatives. “

Or if you’re on life-long blood thinners and NSAIDS are not an option.


54 posted on 02/17/2023 4:50:22 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: anthropocene_x

My MD will prescribe Tramadol and it works well for me for knee and shoulder pain. He also recommends Tylenol in the standard safe doses.


55 posted on 02/17/2023 5:03:29 AM PST by yetidog
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To: anthropocene_x

Demoral. There is nothing else for me that works as well. Nubane is a second choice.


56 posted on 02/17/2023 5:09:36 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Forget "Global Warming", new grants are for "Galaxy Dimming")
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To: steve86

Well, you’d never need it unless you were going for a coma state or surgery really. It’s all we used it for and serious injuries.
Best go with heroin which was a pain killer back in the 40’s and earlier. You can watch any junkie purify it in a spoon before they inject with dirty needles and search frantically for a vein that hasn’t collapsed.
But I get it, sadly the government tells people with chronic pain need to suck it up and die in pain.

I had some back surgery over two years ago and the doctor gave me an hour lecture on usage of Norco...20 of them...back surgery.I don’t want to remember that pain.

If it was pure, as you write, knowing dosages, I probably would also for a day like two years ago.


57 posted on 02/17/2023 5:41:35 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Brian Griffin

They gave me a bottle of Oxycodone for kidney stones a few years ago. Those little things were amazing. However, I couldn’t imagine taking them when I wasn’t in massive pain.

On the other hand, I’m friends with a guy who was a pretty serious heroin junkie. He gave his life to Christ and got off the stuff.

He’s a builder and literally had a house fall on him once. He had some significant injuries and surgeries. He refused all pain medication. He’s worried that if he even takes an aspirin it will put him on a bad path.


58 posted on 02/17/2023 5:44:26 AM PST by cyclotic
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

My nephew recently died of live failure related to alcohol and Tylenol.


59 posted on 02/17/2023 5:50:15 AM PST by AU72
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To: Brian Griffin

Well, I have a different experience.

The common opioids oxycodone are a combination of oxycontin and guess what....... acetaminophen.

I have moderate to severe abdominal pain that apparently results from exertion or something. It is very infrequent but knocks me out of action. I have an opioid prescribed that quickly eliminates the pain.

Knowing that one of the pills ingredients is acetaminophen I have taken Tylenol only for relief. On occasion that has relieved the pain but mostly does not.


60 posted on 02/17/2023 5:51:06 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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