Posted on 02/16/2023 6:03:26 AM PST by dennisw
It’s pathetic how Russians are always viewed as victims, considering that those that did the shooting survived (and had children), and those who were shot did not. Seventy years of mass murder dramatically changed the makeup of Russia. But that doesn’t stop armchair Russian experts from using the distant history of Russia, 300 years ago, to explain why the poor little Russians of today are so afraid of the big bad (Western) world out there (where Russian elites store all their wealth). That somehow they have to invade and kill others to protect themselves.
In the 90s my Russian friends mocked Estonia and the little Baltic countries, while claiming that Russia was such a great country because they had so much land, oil and gas. The proud Moscow Horde. On my first trip to Estonia in 1995 I was shocked at just how much better the people lived (and behaved) than in Russia. But while Russian-Estonians whined about being ruled by non-Russians, none of them ever returned to Mother Russia. Estonia was a good place to live because non-hyphenated Estonians occupied most government posts and did not use the past and their very real recent victimhood (Papa Putin’s NKVD during WW II banished 7,000 Estonian women, children and elderly to Siberia) to justify stealing from and terrorizing others (even Russians).
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
The Real Ukraine
During my first visit to Ukraine (2008), I was very surprised that, although corrupt, the Ukrainians were very different from the Russians. They were Europeans. And it seemed obvious to me that without natural resources, Russians would be poorer than Ukrainians. Yet all my Russian acquaintances in Ukraine, who spoke to me as if I were one of them (I speak very good Russian), only whined about Ukraine, while never even considering going back to Russia (these X-Ukrainians reminded me so much of America’s own X-American eternal victim classes). What they really missed was their higher social status in a criminal society, even if it meant less freedom and more poverty. In 2014, after the Ukrainians freed most of their country from the Russian crime state, I immediately noticed a difference in Ukraine. You could actually walk in Kiev, speak English, and not fear harassment from the police (not possible in Russia).
Ukraine gets along with its neighbors and lives within its borders. But poor little Russia can’t do that, because it fears Ukraine, America and Europe. The real reason is that the failed Russian state does not want prosperous free republics on its borders. It’s that simple.
The only time I ever remember Showman losing composure was when a Finnish engineer, commenting on the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine, recounted how his grandfather, a combat veteran of the Russian invasion of Finland, summed up how to deal with Russia. His grandpa’s words sum up perfectly the real Russia and how the West should deal with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
His grandpa killed many Russians in WW II (who were badly armed and forced at gunpoint to charge enemy lines just like now in Ukraine). He suffered greatly from what he did. Yet he told his grandson quite simply how to deal with Russians: “If they ever come again, kill them”.
“The Real Russia”
ASSURES us that everything below this title will be Deep State propaganda.
Questioning you will never see from the news readers on corporate cable shows & mainstream capitalist press. Critical thinking & alternative analysis is not allowed. In fact, it becomes "Kremlin talking points." Pathetic & dangerous.
https://t.co/4N8n3MGxh5— Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) February 16, 2023
Buffoon, the American Thinker is not deep state. But you sure seem to be Russian deep state aligned.
“Buffoon, the American Thinker is not deep state.”
How many articles have they done on Election Fraud, or Virus Fraud?
“ During my first visit to Ukraine (2008), I was very surprised that, although corrupt, the Ukrainians were very different from the Russians. They were Europeans…”
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Jeez, if all Europe becomes ‘GIBS-ME-DAT money, GIBS-ME-DAT bunch of FREE things’ clones of the Ukrainians Europe is done! No, sadly for them, Ukrainians are NOT like other Europeans.
Everything he says matches anything I've ever heard from any non-Russian who has ever visited Russia.
“Buffoon, the American Thinker is not deep state.”
How many articles have they done on Election Fraud, or Virus Fraud?
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Go to https://www.americanthinker.com/ and you will see that both get covered. The covid scam plus one fellow writes regularly how he and is org is using hi-tech analytics on state vote rolls to suss out fraud.
“Everything he says matches anything I’ve ever heard from any non-Russian who has ever visited Russia. “
Link please.
whenever Putin’s ratings dropped too low (70% before the 2022 invasion), all he had to do was to start killing and plundering Russia’s neighbors. That guaranteed a return to the normal 80-85% approval rating.
No, it’s reality -
— whenever Putin’s ratings dropped too low (70% before the 2022 invasion), all he had to do was to start killing and plundering Russia’s neighbors. That guaranteed a return to the normal 80-85% approval rating.
— In the 90s my Russian friends mocked Estonia and the little Baltic countries, while claiming that Russia was such a great country because they had so much land, oil and gas.
There is no falsehood in the article. Check it out yourself
Bob, you want to link to what Pierre has heard?????
Heck, even the Russians I know who moved from Russia 15 odd years ago say the same things as the article does
Not here in the USA. From the time I started learning about history as far back as elementary school, I've been taught that Russia is the enemy. Commie bastards. Even in WWII they were considered the enemy. Kinda surprised that war did not continue until they were defeated.
This article actually struck home for me on several levels. I was fortunate enough to have spent two weeks in the country in April of 1991, at the height of Perestroika and Glasnost but before the final collapse of the rotting Soviet edifice. It was an amazing experience. The people individually were almost universally warm and friendly. We'd sit across tables from each other and marvel at how we both imagined the other intended to destroy us and yet somehow survived the decades under a literal nuclear umbrella.
But we were also exposed to the system and the society in which these people grew up and lived. Cold, brutal, coarse, with large quantities of cheap vodka to ease the pain. A woman who was in our travel party summed it up best. "This country is a real piece of work".
In every factory office we visited the chief had a young woman secretary whose services clearly went beyond stenography. Having mainly done business in Asia I'm not at all a prude, but this had a different character which I have seen nowhere else. We saw and had described to us corruption that made a place like Brazil seem the height of propriety.
Then there's the mention of the Finnish grandfather and his advice on how to deal with Russians. This rang especially true. Speak with Poles, Balts, Finns, Slovaks, Czechs, any of their immediate neighbors. They don't fear Russians as much as hate them.
I developed a genuine fondness for the Russian people as warm and passionate individuals. Their resistance to Hitler is perhaps the greatest monument to sacrifice against pure evil in all of human history. But there is a side to their national character which can't be discounted and is obvious to anyone unlucky enough to live alongside their borders.
You and your Russia buddies call EVERYTHING written about Russia to be propaganda. Yet, whatever the Kremlin writes is “truth.”
You guys are fools.
You are fools because you don’t believe that your fellow freepers cannot read an article and decide for themselves. You are a fool because you think that no one could possible look at a situation and decide for themselves who is right and who is wrong. You think your moral code (killing Ukranians) is THE Christian code.
Russia invades and steals.
Russia lies to the world and its own people. (False Witness)
Russian troops rape and maim.
Russia covets the natural resources and geographic location of Ukraine.
Russia empties its prisons and uses murderers and depraved criminals as their “shock troops.”
Russia’s allies are atheists and Muslims—who are hell bent on genocide.
Russia transports children deep into their country to assimilate them into a demographically dying country.
Russia threatens Nuclear war over non existential threats.
Not much of a moral code, is it?
War is hell. But you guys seem to think YOUR side is clean on this. They aren’t.
Your ridicule of your fellow travelers doesn’t work. It makes you look ignorant.
Find another method.
“...he told his grandson quite simply how to deal with Russians: “If they ever come again, kill them”...”
After the Soviet empire was humiliated by suffering around a third of a million casualties battling under-populated Finland in the Winter War of 1939-40, they did occupy most of Karelia that Finland ceded in the peace treaty. Years later the Soviets were further humiliated when photographers published photos of the vast differences in lifestyle and orderliness of the Finnish side of the boundary and the Soviet side. Finland’s side was beautifully kept and organized. The Soviet side had ugly slums.
Well stated. Thanks!
I'm pretty sure the USA would not want communist dictatorships on its borders.
Much appreciated!
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