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PUBLIC DISPLAY OF THE GROSS INCOMPETENCE OF U.S. AND NATO MILITARY LEADERS
Sonar 21 ^ | 14 February 2023 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 02/15/2023 8:37:26 AM PST by Kazan

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To: jacknhoo

“The Spanish conquistadores would beg to differ. Colonialism and Imperialism are both considered a conquest.”

They can differ all they like, but we have different words for them because they are in fact different things.

“Not every single one of them.”

Yes, every single one of them (except Russia, as I said before, who still clings to some colonies in Siberia and the like).

“For instance, look at Britain...15 nations are under The Commonwealth Realm”

Commonwealth nations aren’t ruled by Britain, so that’s not a real objection.

“Sovereign nations much like our Indian reservations.”

No, Commonwealth nations are actual sovereign nations, unlike the Indian tribes, which have a very limited “sovereignty”.

“Let’s look at Mexico...Spain called it Viceroyalty of New Spain, and ruled it for 300 yrs.”

And yet, they rule it no more, because in the end, it was far too much trouble, despite the fact that Mexico was the richest gem besides India in the crown of the colonizers.


41 posted on 02/15/2023 12:11:01 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Kazan

You funny.

We only sent Ukraine 20 HIMARS so far, all surely need maintenance / repair at times, and yet well documented HIMARS strikes continue in plentitude (for only 20 launchers, and that they by design DO spend a lot of time on the move).

Granted that much higher numbers of HIMARS almost surely means a lower ratio of decoys to real, and increased chances of getting hit by pure luck if nothing else. But there is no CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to show that rapid, heavy losses of HIMARS would occur with a mere 60 in country. They would still be too scattered / dispersed, and too mobile.

I no more believe Russian claims of Ukrainian casualties vs. Russian losses than I believed Baghdad Bob, or, without outside & reliable corroboration, Ukraine’s claims. (Ukraine’s claims regarding territory held or lost have over time held up respectably well, however.)

Some neutral sources speculate 100k Ukrainians killed. As Ukraine is almost certainly willing to lose as many as 1 million soldiers at something around the present rate, to hold their country, we are looking at Russia trying to keep this up for 10 years, with energy export revenues now slumped, and NATU / EU / S. Korea, etc., basically with over 40x Russia’s GDP, ramping up.

The real problem is that timidity on Germany and the USA’s part is gonna get ~500k Ukrainians killed in a “grinder” that could be shortened by better supply to Ukraine, not Joe Biden’s weak stream. Most of the gear is already paid for, anyway.

As for airspace, tell you what. Please arrange to have a 2 seat Russian jet fly you over, say, Kharkhiv. Also arrange same in a Ukrainian jet for me. Let’s see who comes back. I’m an old dude, what the hell. It’d be “fun”.


42 posted on 02/15/2023 12:17:37 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Boogieman

You’re an idiot - it’s apparent.

All of your responses are twists of the truth or outright lies.


43 posted on 02/15/2023 12:18:09 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

Ha.


44 posted on 02/15/2023 12:21:22 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: jacknhoo

Ah, so the Russians (leadership, not all the populace) are even worse than the old Euro colonizers, and you think their victims should just bend over for it. Plus you laugh at genocide and enjoy blackmail. Got it.

Thanks for so clearly articulating the short term reasons Russia must be stopped now.


45 posted on 02/15/2023 12:26:09 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

All of your response is a lie.


46 posted on 02/15/2023 12:29:29 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Kazan

The “Spring Offensive” is a political imperative ordered by the white hut. Desperate for a win as political will evaporates.


47 posted on 02/15/2023 12:32:15 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: dforest

Didn’t take long for the Klacking Keyboard Brigade to do just that. War Ghouls are so predictable.


48 posted on 02/15/2023 12:50:39 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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LOL, after Russia is through with Ukraine, there won’t be any Ukrainian men left to be coopted.

What, somebody else hijacked your account and posted that?

49 posted on 02/15/2023 1:18:40 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

“What, somebody else hijacked your account and posted that?“

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The USA/CIA/globalists sacrificing Ukrainian men to fight their war is pure evil, yet is not genocide. Plus, I was laughing at the idea that anyone thinks Ukraine will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes of destruction the globalists have wrought on them.

So, go push your lies and dubious innuendos elsewhere.


50 posted on 02/15/2023 1:40:15 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo
You did NOT say "LOL, after the globalists, etc., are through with Ukraine...",

You said "LOL, after Russia is through with Ukraine, there won’t be any Ukrainian men left to be coopted."

Pretty damn clear meaning.

51 posted on 02/15/2023 1:53:16 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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Ukraine will rise like a Phoenix

Going by past examples, I estimate it taking 20-25 years, with a somewhat reduced population; another 10 years for the population recovery. That's IF good policies are stuck with, with investment from the West, and aggressive development of resources such as was just beginning before 2014.

A blink in time / history.

I'm also assuming someone like DeSantis wins the White House in 2024.

52 posted on 02/15/2023 2:06:20 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

For a liar looking to back his lies, a Jimmy-the-dunce stance by you is not surprising but expected. But you know, the only reason Russia is killing all of the Ukrainians is because the USA/CIA/globalists orchestrated this whole scenario over the last few decades.

Next you’ll be lying again saying, Russia can stop this war by simply pulling out of Ukraine. Because that’s just how dubious you are. You’re not fooling most people.


53 posted on 02/15/2023 2:10:26 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Kazan
Turkey told Sweden no deal on entering NATO.

Not really a big problem -- Erdogan has basically decoupled Finland joining and Sweden joining, with no block of Finland, and NATO has agreed. By far the more key membership is Finland. Sweden will support Finland to the hilt in a conflict with Russia anyway, and there's little chance of Russia creating some sort of Article 5 invokement starting with Sweden 1st. -- NATO already cooperates considerably with Sweden and there's also nothing Turkey can do to prevent existing ties between individual NATO countries and Sweden from being fortified.

Erdogan gets to huff and puff at home about blocking Sweden, and that's about all it amounts to.

54 posted on 02/15/2023 2:18:45 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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“ That’s IF good policies are stuck with, with investment from the West, and aggressive development of resources such as was just beginning before 2014.”

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Well, let’s see…when was Zelensky installed by the CIA?

You know this war doesn’t end that way.

This war ends one of two ways. Either Russia and her allies win, meaning the USA/Ukraine/NATO/EU and all their allies lost. Or Russia and her allies lose, meaning the USA and Russia are both nuked and diminished to skeletons of their prior status. Russia won’t lose without striking us, they’ve already made that statement and they are not deterred by a counterstrike. They believe with all of their hearts that God is on their side. We know God is no longer on the side of this nation who spits in His face.


55 posted on 02/15/2023 2:25:43 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Seruzawa

Those dolts just can’t help themselves. It ‘s a waste arguing with them because you hear the same ole responses every time!


56 posted on 02/15/2023 2:26:36 PM PST by dforest
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To: Taxman

Ping


57 posted on 02/15/2023 2:28:14 PM PST by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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To: jacknhoo
It appears to be impossible for you to converse without hurling insults.

One more chance. Try out this concept: Not everything is top down. The flow of history just doesn't work (only) that way.

Next you’ll be lying again saying, Russia can stop this war by simply pulling out of Ukraine.

Wrong again. Granted, that depends on what you mean by "this war". Current major hostilities could probably be halted by a Russian withdrawal to the pre-2014 borders. But in the longer run, deep and powerful forces are at work. They are much greater than the "orchestration" you cherry pick one side of.

58 posted on 02/15/2023 2:55:26 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: jacknhoo

If the CIA (etc.) had had their way, Poroshenko would have won.


59 posted on 02/15/2023 3:00:13 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: jacknhoo

Russia says a LOT of crap. Pretty tight race on that, between the Biden Admin. and them.


60 posted on 02/15/2023 3:02:49 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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