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While people slept, early morning winds kicked up plume near East Palestine train derailment site
WOIO ^ | 2/15/23

Posted on 02/15/2023 8:16:59 AM PST by EBH

Winds and wind gusts were strong early Wednesday morning around northeast Ohio, and it appears to have kicked up a plume of particulate matter (PM) near the area of the East Palestine Norfolk Southern train derailment site.

According to Cleveland 19 meteorologists, looking at the two nearest weather reporting stations in Canton and Youngstown, between 1:00 a.m.-4:00 a.m. wind gusts were in the range of 25-30mph.

In that same time frame, the EPA’s AirNow.com monitoring website shows a plume of “moderate” PM kicking up east of East Palestine.

Any number above 50 is considered moderate according to the EPA, anything above 100 is considered unhealthy for sensitive groups.

The EPA’s closest air monitoring site to East Palestine is in Beaver Falls, PA, 15 miles to the east.

Beaver Falls is the same area that any smoke or soot from the “controlled burn” of vinyl chloride would have come down.

Here are the reading for Beaver Falls when the wind gusts were highest this morning:

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1 posted on 02/15/2023 8:16:59 AM PST by EBH
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To: EBH

Biden Administration and the Sodomite Pete B. are silent on this disaster.


2 posted on 02/15/2023 8:22:05 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: EBH

Oh no …. If a balloon gets close will BIG BANG


3 posted on 02/15/2023 8:22:23 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: LeonardFMason

All those people told it was safe to go home. All those people who were told they were outside the zone.

They cannot even put their head down to rest at night.


4 posted on 02/15/2023 8:27:46 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon)
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To: EBH

https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/ohio/east_palestine


5 posted on 02/15/2023 8:28:56 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: EBH

“ The EPA’s closest air monitoring site to East Palestine is in Beaver Falls, PA, 15 miles to the east.”

Beaver Falls, home town of Joe Namuth. Amazing trivia my mind recalls sometime.


6 posted on 02/15/2023 8:32:04 AM PST by Eva
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7 posted on 02/15/2023 8:42:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: EBH

Since I am far west of there I am not concerned about the wind but a bunch of folks are getting increasingly concerned about that stuff draining down river on the Ohio and our drinking water is sucked up from that thing.

Bottled water stock was getting low in some places I stopped at last night


8 posted on 02/15/2023 8:43:01 AM PST by MachIV
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OMG!!! Moderate PM levels???

We’re DOOMED!

Good thing these people don’t live in the city... or, near a desert.


9 posted on 02/15/2023 8:55:13 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

PM levels, but PM of what?


10 posted on 02/15/2023 9:17:06 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: SomeCallMeTim; gloryblaze

Uhmmm it’s contaminated with deadly vinyl chloride.


11 posted on 02/15/2023 9:24:31 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon)
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I am about an hour SE of the derailment. Windy here and near 70°F, so windows open. Years ago, I was driving through what I thought was fog, later found it there was a train derailment in the valley below the cloyd of whatever...


12 posted on 02/15/2023 9:27:47 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Uhmmm it’s contaminated with deadly vinyl chloride.

Ummm, of course that is the question. But, according to the article: "One of the problems with the EPA’s air monitoring devices is while they measure for particulate matter, they do not tell you what’s in the air."

13 posted on 02/15/2023 9:27:54 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: MachIV

Dilution is the solution to pollution.

Vinyl chloride burned off results in Hydrochloric Acid.


14 posted on 02/15/2023 9:35:28 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon)
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I had seen it reported that when vinyl chloride is burned is gives off phosgene gas. And it happened in East Palestine.

Phosgene was used extensively during World War I as a choking (pulmonary) agent. Among the chemicals used in the war, phosgene was responsible for the large majority of deaths.

Phosgene is not found naturally in the environment.

Phosgene is used in industry to produce many other chemicals such as pesticides.

Phosgene can be formed when chlorinated hydrocarbon compounds are exposed to high temperatures. Chlorinated hydrocarbon compounds are substances sometimes used or created in industry that contain the elements chlorine, hydrogen, and carbon.

The vapors of chlorinated solvents exposed to high temperatures have been known to produce phosgene.

Chlorinated solvents are chlorine-containing chemicals that are typically used in industrial processes to dissolve or clean other materials, such as in paint stripping, metal cleaning, and dry cleaning.

Phosgene gas is heavier than air, so it would be more likely found in low-lying areas.

https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/phosgene/basics/facts.asp


15 posted on 02/15/2023 9:44:01 AM PST by CodeJockey ("The duty of a true Patriot is to protect his country from its government.” –Thomas Paine)
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To: EBH

Caused by all that hot air blowing in from D.C.


16 posted on 02/15/2023 9:45:31 AM PST by bgill
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I guess you haven’t been paying attention. The “experts” purposely burned thousands of gallons of vinyl chloride. 1part per million (PPM) can be hazardous to health. Now they are telling folks it’s safe to go back home.

Of course, these experts didn’t do any testing of individual homes or wells.


17 posted on 02/15/2023 9:50:36 AM PST by cyclotic
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To: PghBaldy

I’m sure everything went back to just fine after the phosgene dispersed.


18 posted on 02/15/2023 10:05:16 AM PST by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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To: gloryblaze
PM levels, but PM of what?

PM= Particulate Matter. It can be dust, or pollen, lots of things. In this case, it likely soot. Carbon. It's still breaking down to smaller and smaller particles.

19 posted on 02/15/2023 10:52:37 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: EBH
Uhmmm it’s contaminated with deadly vinyl chloride.

Now... it's not. The VCM was burned. What's remaining, in particle sizes small enough to be blown around, is carbon.

20 posted on 02/15/2023 10:54:38 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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