Posted on 02/13/2023 6:47:45 AM PST by PBRCat
Don’t be a fool, Doc! A lot of “low value” shoplifting is FELONIOUS even in Ill-in-noid.
In Texas if you steal alcohol from a delivery truck, it is a Class 2 Felony. Steal from a liquor store, it is a misdemeanor.
Closure of one in the West Side of Milwaukee was announced at the same time. It is very near to a low income housing complex. Walmart gave the same statement about profitability. Our local TV ‘news’ hit all the popular notes about food deserts and dis-whatevering the poor, but reported nothing about the theft that impacts the profits.
Come on now you know it is systemic racism that is causing this. When the lights go out hungry people steal TVs and you know it.
I don't know how you can call the theft of something not exceeding $950.00 anything but a felony. In California it is not even a prosecutable misdemeanor.
Doc, you are a freaking moron. I never said every act of shop lifting is a felony. The laws on the books determine what is a felony act of shoplifting and what is a misdemeanor act of shoplifting. You apparently cannot understand that.
If you believe small time shoplifting should not be a felony, run for the legislature in your state and change the law. Many states have laws that treat small time shoplifting as a misdemeanor but consider habitual small time shoplifting as a felony.
Your opinion on what the law should be is completely irrelevant to what the law is in Illinois. Apparently, you are unwilling to bother to read and to understand the law. As I noted above, don’t be a fool, Doc.
In CA. you can walk out with $1000.00 worth of goods and NOTHING will happen to you, this has caused retailers to LOCK UP every damn thing in the store!! It has become a pain in the ass to shop anymore!! Best way to shop for ANYTHING is on line!!
This is NOT ONLY about the shoplifting it is MORE about the safety of their team members and customers!! These places have become jungles of crime, murders, robberies, carjackings ect.
Doc, I did not call you a moron because we disagree. I called you a moron because you have demonstrated you are unable to process legal information. People like you come into my office all the time saying, “I did not know what I did was against the law.” When a moron says that too me, I send him or her to the public defender for representation as I refuse to represent morons who will get convicted because they are too stupid to function in an organized law-based society. While they have the right to legal counsel, they do not have a right to my legal counsel.
Will County.
Put down the magic dragon and read what I quoted from the Illinois statutes. You apparently did not process that, Puff Doctor, which makes you a moron.
Thanks.
L
Walmart is not losing hundreds of millions in its Cook County (and other stores) because people are shoplifting candy bars. They are losing money because organized gangs of ferals are stealing massive amounts of merchandise.
Stealing a candy bar would likely not result in being charged. Habitually stealing candy bars would and in Illinois could be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the circumstances.
You seem to be making the same mistake you made with the law with what is lawyerly in that you mistakenly believe that what you think is lawyerly is lawyerly. What you think about what is and is not lawyerly is irrelevant. A person who passed the bar examination and was admitted to the bar who does not commit a felony has a duty to try to educate people on what the law is not what that person thinks the law should be.
A person who is ineducable is and will always remain a moron. You are ineducable based on your responses. Therefore, you are a moron.
Your employment of logical fallacies, in this case the straw man, is not the best exercise of honest discussion.
That is interesting that habitually stealing a candy bar in Illinois might be treated as a felony, but not pertinent to the original statement that there are plenty of simple shoplifting cases that are not felonies. Is the felonious version of habitually candy bars related in reality to breaking probation or criminal trespass rather than petty theft?
I have taken cognition and intelligence tests with far more authority that your posts, including the LSAT, and my processing is just fine.
You could have avoided your errors by simply acknowledging from the beginning that plenty of shoplifting is not at the felony level. I am in a big city, and I have seen major stores due to shoplifting, including a Walgreens located near a bus stop. It dies not from $800 smash and grabs, but from the thousand cuts of from a stream of people grabbing an armful of snack food or small amounts of stuff they think they can resell for drug/drink money.
Most of the shoplifting was not at the felony level, and if you insist on charging so much shoplifting as a felony, you are actually less likely to get a conviction unless you knock it down at plea bargaining. A misdemeanor can send you to jail for months, and that is more appropriate for the guy who takes a bag or Doritos and a monster drink.
The mob smash and grabs and the folks who roll a whole shopping cart while wielding a weapon includes more than shoplifting, and is of a different nature than simple, low-level shoplifting.
A real attorney would have a much better demeanor and a demonstrated ability to control one’s self.
Just saying.
You Sir or Madam seem to believe you have a right not to be offended but can be as offensive as you want. I hope you know a good attorney as people like you who blatantly disregard eventually need one. Good luck on your paved superhighway to Hell.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.