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Top general admits NORAD failed to detect earlier Chinese spy balloons in U.S. air space
Just the News ^ | Updated: February 6, 2023 - 7:11pm | John Solomon

Posted on 02/06/2023 4:34:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Article Dig In The Air Force general charged with protecting America's air space from hostile threats acknowledged Monday that the U.S. military failed to detect some previous incursions by Chinese spy balloons, calling it a troubling "awareness gap" that needed fixing.

"We had gaps on prior balloons," Air Force Gen. Glen VanHerck told reporters.

The comment by the North American Aerospace Defense Command commander both raised concern about NORAD's vaunted ability to detect airspace threats and also undercut a bungled weekend effort by the Biden administration to try to suggest former President Donald Trump failed to react to three incursions on his watch.

In fact, VanHerck told reporters during a Pentagon briefing, the Trump administration wasn't told about the incursions because NORAD missed them and that they only recently were detected after the fact by U.S. intelligence agencies.

"I will tell you that we did not detect those threats. And that's a domain awareness gap that we have to figure out," he said, declining to be more specific about how earlier flyovers of Chinese spy balloons were missed.

He explained in general terms how the prior incursions were discovered. "The intel community, after the fact... made us aware of those balloons that were previously approaching North America or transited North America," he said.

VanHerck said the military deliberately moved slowly on downing the the most recent spy balloon after discovering it hovering near the Aleutian Islands of Alaska on Jan. 28. He said officials determined it posed no immediate threat of attack, and allowed it to maneuver across the United States while blocking its ability to collect sensitive data so that the military could learn how it missed the earlier spy balloons and how they worked.

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KEYWORDS: ballongate; balloongap; norad
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is the briefing

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3289888/gen-glen-vanherck-commander-north-american-aerospace-defense-command-and-united/

“Q: Thank you. And on the prior balloons, was NORTHCOM involved in tracking the balloon that was at the early stage of the Biden Administration and also the three that transited during the Trump Administration, and what can you tell us about those that were different?

Thank you.

GEN. VANHERCK: So those balloons, so every day as a NORAD commander it’s my responsible to — responsibility to detect threats to North America. I will tell you that we did not detect those threats. And that’s a domain awareness gap that we have to figure out. But I don’t want to go in further detail.

The intel community, after the fact, I believe has been briefed already, assess those threats to additional means of collection from additional means and made us aware of those balloons that were previously approaching North America or transited North America. I hope that answers your question.”

This is what was posted by DOD yesterday

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3287173/dod-statement-on-high-altitude-surveillance-balloon/

“Instances of this kind of balloon activity have been observed previously over the past several years. Once the balloon was detected, the U.S. government acted immediately to protect against the collection of sensitive information.”


41 posted on 02/06/2023 5:44:04 PM PST by HollyB
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

screw it...


42 posted on 02/06/2023 5:45:18 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Look at this contradiction

Re:explosives

Yeah, so I can’t confirm whether it had explosives or not. Anytime you down something like this, we make an assumption that that potential exists. We did not associate the potential of having explosives with a threat to dropping weapons, those kinds of things, but out of a precaution, abundance of safety for not only our military people and the public, we have to make assumptions such as that. I hope that answers your questions.

Q: So — so just important clarification here: You didn’t have a reason to think there were explosives. You just — this was out of an abundance of caution, and you thought it might potentially have them, so you had to be careful. Is that correct, or did you have reason to believe there were explosives?

GEN. VANHERCK: I would say it was the prior. I did not have any corroboration or confirmation of explosives on this platform. That was an — an assessment that we wanted just to make sure for safety purposes

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Q: Yeah. And could you answer the question about whether there was a warhead in the missile?

GEN. VANHERCK: Yeah, absolutely. There was a warhead in the missile. You can see that explosion on TV as it goes through the lower part of the balloon and right there through the superstructure.


43 posted on 02/06/2023 5:48:52 PM PST by HollyB
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To: servantoftheservant

Look at 41 & 43 - he’s full of contradictions


44 posted on 02/06/2023 5:50:42 PM PST by HollyB
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They keep trying to come up with something people will believe.


45 posted on 02/06/2023 5:54:08 PM PST by DejaJude
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Talking to a couple of my friends who are still in the NAVY, they said I wouldn’t believe how low morale currently is. The next couple of years will be terrible for the military because of what they will have to do to maintain their current troop level.


46 posted on 02/06/2023 5:55:04 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sure I believe that. NORAD can follow Santa’s sleigh but not Chicom spy balloons that are as long as 3 school buses.


47 posted on 02/06/2023 5:55:37 PM PST by KingofZion
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The military should not be commenting on our detection capabilities in publc.


48 posted on 02/06/2023 6:02:53 PM PST by plain talk
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If the military failed to detect a balloon transiting the USA, anywhere in the USA, years ago, how can that be proven? It’s not like a balloon leaves a permanent scratch mark across the sky.


49 posted on 02/06/2023 6:04:35 PM PST by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: joma89

Oh, please, enough of the woke.

Operational failures have been occurring long before woke.


50 posted on 02/06/2023 6:07:24 PM PST by Fury
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NORAD literally has one job, and they failed at it.


51 posted on 02/06/2023 6:07:38 PM PST by matt04 ( )
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To: Billthedrill

Well done, Billthedrill, well done. Thanks for clearing that up.


52 posted on 02/06/2023 6:07:45 PM PST by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Russian balloons ? Nah, dees here are Chinese 🇨🇳


53 posted on 02/06/2023 6:11:39 PM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: gdzla
If you didn’t detect them how do you know they were there?

They looked at the schedule silly !

USAF probably gets a memo from JCS to ignore any and all balloons that may or may not be loitering across the continent on such such dates. The balloons arrive promptly , like clockwork apparently , as the “story” unfolds. /s (I think)

54 posted on 02/06/2023 6:17:44 PM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: joma89

What ... you actually believe this???


55 posted on 02/06/2023 6:18:57 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What a sad sack. An Air Force General having to swallow his pride and throw his own people under the bus to cover for a lie.


56 posted on 02/06/2023 6:27:28 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Blurb2350

I think they didn’t detect them because it never happened. It’s all for public consumption. They’re lying.


57 posted on 02/06/2023 6:45:44 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
U.S. military failed to detect some previous incursions by Chinese spy balloons

So.... they actually did not happen.

58 posted on 02/06/2023 6:52:05 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If this is the case how much stuff has China and Russia flown over the US undetected over the past decade?


59 posted on 02/06/2023 6:52:32 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: Blurb2350
What d’you bet they were detected but it was agreed not to tell Pres. Trump.

What do you bet they never happened at all.

People, not the military but regular people looked up and saw the balloon. At any time in the US there are thousands of people scanning the sky. And they talk to each other. If it happened before... show me the Twitter posts.

60 posted on 02/06/2023 6:57:35 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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