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"Some claims about those who’ve suffered heart issues also weaponize a kernel of truth — that COVID-19 vaccines can cause rare heart inflammation issues, myocarditis or pericarditis, especially in young men. Medical experts say these cases are typically mild and the benefits of immunization far outweigh the risks."

Not if it was YOUR kid that died for no reason!

Here's an idea, AP - how about you and all the other Enemy Media Pukes stop lying about this stuff in the first place! If you were perceived as a TRUTHFUL enterprise, no one would be questioning your agenda. It's not Rocket Science. Jerks.

1 posted on 02/05/2023 1:01:20 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This contribution is written by “ AP staff “.

I guess it takes a village.


2 posted on 02/05/2023 1:05:04 PM PST by BrexitBen
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Well said Diana. Wouldn’t be surprised if the media ramps the attacks on anti vaxxers. I bet they’d love to have control of Twitter back.


3 posted on 02/05/2023 1:06:53 PM PST by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

#THUD


4 posted on 02/05/2023 1:08:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The AP is certainly not a credible source of anything. Whatever they report, I assume it is a lie unless I can prove otherwise from reliable sources. And they are certainly lying here about the “vaccines.”


6 posted on 02/05/2023 1:10:19 PM PST by Blennos
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I will say that because the CDC and the NIH said that anyone who died from any cause, but could remotely be assumed to have had COVID, even from imagined exposure, dies of COVID, and all of our statistics are centered entirely around this incredibly perverse reasoning, until Biden became president, then they stopped the severe exaggeration.

Consequently, everyone who dies now should be assumed to have dies from the COVID-19 vaccine, if they were known to have had at least one vaccine.

I have absolutely no problems cramming made up statistics down the throats of anyone who pushed any of the faked COVID-19 statistics.


7 posted on 02/05/2023 1:15:50 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A friend of mine suffered a partial yet permanent loss of vision less than a week following a Pfizer booster. He has no (meaning none) pre existing health issues.


8 posted on 02/05/2023 1:19:19 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston Churchill)
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Aww, they’re trying to pull a 2021 on us. Too late, gang . . .

JFTR, AP’s website names the no-name authors as Ali Swenson and Angelo Fichera.


9 posted on 02/05/2023 1:23:44 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Saw a post earlier today on GETTR (reposted) .... father posting that his 19 yo daughter had just died of a heart attack ... he was devastated, said he was thinking about suicide himself.

In another discussion, someone opined that until it strikes some of these folks personally (death, stroke, severe heart damage, neurological damage), they’ll deny deny deny. Good luck with that ... from what I can see (among family, friends, acquaintances), it’s all accelerating.


10 posted on 02/05/2023 1:30:31 PM PST by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control. $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Who cares?

Is anyone going back and re-figuring what the true Covid deaths were originally? Anyone that had any symptoms and died was counted as a Covid death, which is no less false than counting folks that have a congenital heart defect and were vax’ed collapsing on live TV as a vaccine death.

But where was the MSM pointing out how this was all overblown hype in 2019 and 2020? Nowhere to be found. They like a well trained dog took their marching orders, repeated the narrative, quoted BS statistics, printed speeches without questioning them... “winter of sickness and death” remember that?

If the author attempted to point out how BOTH sides have been full of crap, that could be objective. But only pointing out one sides defects amounts to a hit job intended to discredit one side and shows a bias by the author.


13 posted on 02/05/2023 1:50:55 PM PST by Red6
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Italian Trulli
14 posted on 02/05/2023 1:56:55 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

So, it takes time for autopsies. Wanna bet that our Media idiots will only report those autopsies that showed “other” causes than those of the Pfizer “stuff”?


15 posted on 02/05/2023 2:05:56 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Died suddenly’ posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies”

No, it doesn’t. “Occam’s razor (also known as the ‘law of parsimony’) is a philosophical tool for ‘shaving off’ unlikely explanations. Essentially, when faced with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest is likely the correct one.”

As far as I know, there is no explanation for more people suddenly dying of pretty much the same thing than before COVID and the vaccine. The simplest explanation than is side effects of the vaccine, which to this date is still labeled experimental with no empirical data.


17 posted on 02/05/2023 2:24:08 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (“Racist” is the new “Nazi”.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They want to give the benefit of a doubt to Covid Vaccines but if you were run over by a bus with covid, covid killed you.


20 posted on 02/05/2023 2:48:22 PM PST by dila813
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The source that the AP references for their “2 million saved by vaccine” study crap they list as:

Funding came from several groups including … the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Absolutely no bias for that funding…

27 posted on 02/05/2023 3:05:08 PM PST by Magnatron
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

https://www.aliswenson.com/#:~:text=Ali%20Swenson%20is%20a%20journalist,Associated%20Press%20in%20New%20York.

She reports on so-called misinfo...

Okaaay....


28 posted on 02/05/2023 3:06:30 PM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The hit pieces now being pubished only confirm that the media are getting nervous, very nervous. Rather than admit they have been wrong all along, the stupid ones are now doubling down, believing they can flood the zone and overcome the obvious. It will only lead to a bigger crash in the end.


30 posted on 02/05/2023 3:11:12 PM PST by iontheball
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

In this article, they make mention that in the particular incidents they cite, many of the deceased had pre-existing heart conditions. I do, too.

I would imagine that maybe, if an experimental injection, with its manufacturing companies immune to lawsuits, causes heart inflammation, maybe don’t get it? It was one thing before all of the skeletons fell out of the closet and patients were basically uninformed, but at this point, it’s a gamble.


32 posted on 02/05/2023 3:55:23 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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Indiana life insurance CEO, “Says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64!!”

By Margaret Menge | The Center Square contributor Jan 1, 2022

(The Center Square) – The head of Indianapolis-based insurance company OneAmerica said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working-age people.

“We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

OneAmerica is a $100 billion insurance company that has had its headquarters in Indianapolis since 1877. The company has approximately 2,400 employees and sells life insurance, including group life insurance to employers nationwide.

Davison said the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica.

“And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said.

“Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.”

Davison was one of several business leaders who spoke during the virtual news conference on Dec. 30 that was organized by the Indiana Chamber of Commerce.

Most of the claims for deaths being filed are not classified as COVID-19 deaths, Davison said.

“What the data is showing to us is that the deaths that are being reported as COVID deaths greatly understate the actual death losses among working-age people from the pandemic. It may not all be COVID on their death certificate, but deaths are up just huge, huge numbers.”

He said at the same time, the company is seeing an “uptick” in disability claims, saying at first it was short-term disability claims, and now the increase is in long-term disability claims.

“For OneAmerica, we expect the costs of this are going to be well over $100 million, and this is our smallest business. So it’s having a huge impact on that,” he said.

That $100 million is what OneAmerica will have paid out to policyholders in group life insurance and disability claims, the company said.

Davison said the costs will be passed on to employers purchasing group life insurance policies, who will have to pay higher premiums.

The CDC weekly death counts, which reflect the information on death certificates and so have a lag of up to eight weeks or longer, show that for the week ending Nov. 6, there were far fewer deaths from COVID-19 in Indiana compared to a year ago – 195 verses 336 – but more deaths from other causes – 1,350 versus 1,319.

These deaths were for people of all ages, however, while the information referenced by Davison was for working-age people who are employees of businesses with group life insurance policies.

At the same news conference where Davison spoke, Brian Tabor, the president of the Indiana Hospital Association, said that hospitals across the state are being flooded with patients “with many different conditions,” saying “unfortunately, the average Hoosiers’ health has declined during the pandemic.”

In a follow-up call, he said he did not have a breakdown showing why so many people in the state are being hospitalized – for what conditions or ailments. But he said the extraordinarily high death rate quoted by Davison matched what hospitals in the state are seeing.

“What it confirmed for me is it bore out what we’re seeing on the front end,...” he said.

The number of hospitalizations in the state is now higher than before the COVID-19 vaccine was introduced a year ago, and in fact is higher than it’s been in the past five years, Dr. Lindsay Weaver, Indiana’s chief medical officer, said at a news conference with Gov. Eric Holcomb on Wednesday.

Just 8.9% of ICU beds are available at hospitals in the state, a low for the year, and lower than at any time during the pandemic. But the majority of ICU beds are not taken up by COVID-19 patients – just 37% are, while 54% of the ICU beds are being occupied by people with other illnesses or conditions.

The state’s online dashboard shows that the moving average of daily deaths from COVID-19 is less than half of what it was a year ago.

At the pandemic’s peak a year ago, 125 people died on one day – on Dec. 29, 2020. In the last three months, the highest number of deaths in one day was 58, on Dec. 13.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_71473b12-6b1e-11ec-8641-5b2c06725e2c.html

https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_71473b12-6b1e-11ec-8641-5b2c06725e2c.html


35 posted on 02/05/2023 5:22:31 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("What is your 'fair share' of what someone else has worked for?" - Thomas Sowell !!!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This is obviously true in some cases. Just witness the posts here where someone dies after losing a years long battle with cancer which predated both COVID and the vaccines - posts in the thread “safe and effective” “died suddenly”, etc. Same with posts about suicide. Sick people.


39 posted on 02/05/2023 7:24:51 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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