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Commander says Western tanks will give Ukraine battlefield 'advantage'
ABCNews.com ^ | January 31, 2023 | Tom Soufi Burridge, Oleksiy Pshemyskiy, Bruno Roeber, and Alessandro Pavone

Posted on 01/31/2023 1:42:55 PM PST by Timber Rattler

Eagerly awaiting the arrival of state-of-the-art tanks from Western allies, Ukrainian tank commander Ihor Levchenko told ABC News he's confident that compared to the "rusty and old" contraptions he now operates, the prized armored combat vehicles will give his country "a very significant advantage on the battlefield."

Levchenko showed ABC News the Soviet-era-design tanks he and his battalion now use, concealed in a small woodland in eastern Ukraine and within earshot of the constant thud of artillery from the front lines a few miles away.

He moved seamlessly and quickly around his T-72 tank, hopping on and off and maneuvering his body through the narrow circular metal hatches in a relaxed and familiar manner.

For many, the idea of going into battle crammed inside a dark green, aging metal contraption is a petrifying option. However, Levchenko, a seasoned tank commander, admitted fear helped him focus when in battle.

"The ones who do not get scared, are the ones that get killed," Levchenko said.

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"Western tanks will give us a very significant advantage on the battlefield. I'm very confident about that," Levchenko said.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
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The cavalry is coming!


1 posted on 01/31/2023 1:42:55 PM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Really looking forward to FReepers to weigh in on the tactical question presented by the pairing off of “Western” armor vs. Russian. Lot of smart knowledgeable people here.


2 posted on 01/31/2023 1:44:29 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: Timber Rattler

The Ukrainian military should be quite impressed how well this US military & others stuff works. Nuttin like point & fire!


3 posted on 01/31/2023 1:50:05 PM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: Timber Rattler

It’s going to be a suicide mission.


4 posted on 01/31/2023 1:50:55 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Timber Rattler

They will not get there before this war is over. There is a year delay. Putin is going for broke now. As usual, Biden is Slow Joe.


5 posted on 01/31/2023 1:52:48 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: JewishRighter
Really looking forward to FReepers to weigh in on the tactical question presented by the pairing off of “Western” armor vs. Russian. Lot of smart knowledgeable people here.

There's also a lot of armchair generals and couch commandos who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, and are able to pick up the slightest hints of DC deep-state propaganda, and war-game the whole thing for us.

6 posted on 01/31/2023 1:52:58 PM PST by PGR88 (, )
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To: JewishRighter

None of it matters without air superiority, and drones are changing that quickly as well. Just more scrap metal.


7 posted on 01/31/2023 1:54:37 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Timber Rattler

What would you expect him to say? These tanks will get stuck in the mud and become drone fodder?


8 posted on 01/31/2023 1:56:49 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Timber Rattler

31 M1 tanks.


9 posted on 01/31/2023 1:56:56 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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Ain’t proxy wars grand... /s


10 posted on 01/31/2023 1:57:03 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Brilliant
The Bradley's have been loaded and are on their way right now.

USTRANSCOM sends more than 60 Bradley Fighting Vehicles to Ukraine


11 posted on 01/31/2023 1:58:00 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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The cavalry is coming!

In 2024. The Pentagon announced today the M1s for Ukraine will be ordered and built from scratch. No existing stocks, no prepositioned stocks, and no refurbishments. It will take 12-18 months to deliver these tanks to Ukraine.

You can tell the Pentagon is already preparing for Ukraine's defeat and wants to keep the important stuff for the next, post-Ukraine, phase of the war.

12 posted on 01/31/2023 1:59:19 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: JewishRighter

McGregor has been saying that Abrams and Leopard tanks require substantial training to operate and to keep them running. Ukes don’t have that training so he sees western operators arriving with the tanks.


13 posted on 01/31/2023 1:59:59 PM PST by Pelham (#NeverNikki)
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To: existentially_kuffer

I saw a M1 on eBay. It could only be paid for in Cryptocurrency. Delivery 3–6 weeks.


14 posted on 01/31/2023 2:00:52 PM PST by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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To: Bulwyf

It always really comes down to people and to doctrine. In WWII, the Germans and the Japanese had good planes and seasoned pilots. As the war continued, they continued to produce more and better machines as best they could — but they could never produce enough replacements for the pilots they had lost. Eventually, you have inexperienced pilots flying against seasoned veterans, and the results are not pretty.

Leopards and Abrams going to Ukraine will be brand new to those soldiers. They will face Russians driving Russian tanks. Will the technology really help? I think the Ukrainians will screw it up.


15 posted on 01/31/2023 2:02:20 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it’s the other way”)
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31 M1 tanks

None equipped with composite armor, steel only, which have yet to be manufactured.

16 posted on 01/31/2023 2:02:56 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It always really comes down to people and to doctrine. In WWII, the Germans and the Japanese had good planes and seasoned pilots.

The American bombing campaign in Japan and Germany was devastating to their industry production. In his autobiography, Albert Speer said that American bombers in Germany "ended the technical war" and they could no longer win in Russia.

17 posted on 01/31/2023 2:12:07 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Timber Rattler

The variety of weapons that Ukraine has received must be a logistical nightmare to maintain and repair. The destruction of Ukraine’s power grid poses a further challenge in MRO.


18 posted on 01/31/2023 2:12:58 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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To: PGR88

Yeah, a lot of those armchair quarterbacks were also falling
for the anti-Russian propaganda leaking out.

As a general rule, any reports showing Russia in a negative
light were classified as propaganda.

Those who classified them as propaganda and circled their
wagons around that claim, have never explained how Russia
lost all that territory, equipment, and troops, since none
of the reports on such matters were true, but had to be
blatant propaganda.


19 posted on 01/31/2023 2:16:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for? which it stands.)
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To: JewishRighter
Consider the weight of those tanks VS Russian.

Russian tanks are crap, pure and simple. They are tanks for light attacks in soft conditions in conventional wars...such as in THE Ukraine.

The western tanks are heavy and have superior firing systems. Troops have to have YEARS of training in combat tactics to run them. The western tanks have problems fighting in urban close quarters. If there are wide avenues, then they can work, but when they have to cross streams, bridges and areas where the ground is soft, they become a hell of a target.
Aside from all that, the western tanks will NOT have the reactive armor on them. So what they will be fighting with is older conventional heavy tanks that have expensive maintenance intensive driving systems. They suck gas like nothing ever seen before. How are the Ukrainians going to supply fuel to those that get just over a half mile to the gallon? The German tanks do a little better. About 1.07 miles to the gallon. But, both the Abrams and Leopard are over 60 tons dead weight.

The Russian tanks will determine what type they deploy..I suspect the T14 which has a operational range of over 300 miles compared to just over 200 for the Leopard.

Going to be interesting to watch. Especially after they get hit with thermobaric weapons the Russians have been using.

20 posted on 01/31/2023 2:18:38 PM PST by crz
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