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Trump Finds an Opening Against DeSantis (Social Security)
Bloomberg via Washington Post ^ | Jan 27 2023 | Joshua Green

Posted on 01/28/2023 7:41:42 AM PST by 6thavenue

Edited on 01/28/2023 9:04:42 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: desantis; desantisisntrunning; election2024; fl; florida; paywall; trump; yawn
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To: JBW1949

Since so many big woke corporations are bragging about subsidizing abortions for their employees - even flying them to cities where they can get abortions - I’m for reversing the Paul Ryan tax cuts for big corps. These woke executives got tax cuts while Ryan complained about the benefits paid to seniors in Social Security and Medicare


41 posted on 01/28/2023 8:35:39 AM PST by 6thavenue
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To: 6thavenue

Trump has never been a social or fiscal conservative.
He was for abortion before he was against it. He did not veto any big spending bills. Federal spending and national debt shot up significantly during his 4 years.


42 posted on 01/28/2023 8:36:30 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Sacajaweau

You’re really splitting hairs. Romney, Ryan, Mitch, Thune, Lindsey and the House Republican study committee have all called for cutting social security and Medicare. That’s a fact. Calling advocacy a “discussion” is to live in denial.


43 posted on 01/28/2023 8:38:17 AM PST by 6thavenue
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To: Sacajaweau

There is no other subject that proves how addictive and ingrained communism gets. Socialism security turns otherwise conservative people into raging leftwing commies.

The subject is untouchable. It’s nuts.


44 posted on 01/28/2023 8:39:00 AM PST by Portnoy001
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To: Portnoy001

How old are you???? How long have you had a job???


45 posted on 01/28/2023 8:40:56 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: entropy12

“ national debt shot up significantly during his 4 years.”

Helped along by the Paul Ryan corporate tax cut that Trump signed. I’m for reversing that. Big corps are woke enemies to conservative Americans. A lot of them gave money to BLM. A lot of them are now bragging about helping their employees abortion their babies. So the money they got thru the Ryan tax cuts is going to good use!/s


46 posted on 01/28/2023 8:41:12 AM PST by 6thavenue
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To: 6thavenue

Agree with the cuts to woke corporations.

However, those savings are microscopic compared to costs of the demographic imbalance and structural fraud (Structurally it’s a Ponzi Scheme!) of Social Security and Medicare.

At some point that will have to be addressed, now is not the time.


47 posted on 01/28/2023 8:41:52 AM PST by Reily
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To: JBW1949

I’ve gotten a LOT more out of social security entitlements than I put in. Not saying my age, sorry.

It’s been great for me. But it’s pure communism anyway.


48 posted on 01/28/2023 8:43:03 AM PST by Portnoy001
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To: 6thavenue

SOCIAL SECURITY has been paid into-—by most recipients

WELFARE is ONLY outgoing to recipients.


49 posted on 01/28/2023 8:44:25 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: 6thavenue
He wants to stop our war spending in Ukraine

Point me to something specific he said, other than fluff. You're saying he actually has said we should stop sending any money over there? I need something more than a hint, or criticism of Democrats.

He wants to stop subsidizing illegals

He does? Again, point me to something specific he has said regarding cutting outflows to illegals in the last year. Name an entitlement program he officially put on notice, as targeted, not his general border wall agenda.

He wants to cut our payments to NATO, since the member countries pay next to nothing

OK, so 2 of the 3 things you mentioned he may want to cut are related to national defense, which isn't where we should necessarily start in my opinion.

Name some domestic social programs he's on record wanting to cut, if possible, please. Thanks.

50 posted on 01/28/2023 8:45:02 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who believes it.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Most people pay into any welfare they get. Not all that many have paid $0 taxes in their lives.

And I’m a great example of how you can get massive SS entitlement payments and not put that much in. It’s not that different than welfare at all.

Both are leftwing, started by socialists, and are plain socialism.


51 posted on 01/28/2023 8:47:00 AM PST by Portnoy001
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To: Portnoy001

Well, goody for you....(Moving along now)


52 posted on 01/28/2023 8:48:01 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Golden Eagle

You sound like you’re ok with big spending on the military industrial complex (“national defense”, yeah, sure) - but by all means we have to cut Social Security for our seniors! In other words, typical neocon Republican talking points


53 posted on 01/28/2023 8:49:52 AM PST by 6thavenue
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To: 6thavenue

Today Trump will become the Peace ☮️ candidate, and DeSantis isn’t.


54 posted on 01/28/2023 8:51:47 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: 6thavenue

So you have no US social programs, that you can name, at all, that Trump wants to cut.

OK, that matches my current understanding as well. So I guess we are in full agreement on the subject. Thanks.


55 posted on 01/28/2023 8:51:53 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who believes it.)
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To: odawg
As for DeSantis, has anyone noticed any negative press much for him.

Are you not paying attention?

There's tones of negative press against Ron DeSantis. "DeathSantis!" "Don't Say Gay!" "Don't Say Black!" "Trump, But Worse!"

Just a few headlines.

56 posted on 01/28/2023 8:53:20 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: 6thavenue
Bloomberg and the WaPo would like us to fight amongst ourselves.

Let's focus on the Dems, with the multitude of critical issues regarding the many hot messes in which they leave us at the moment.

57 posted on 01/28/2023 8:59:16 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston Churchill)
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To: Golden Eagle

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/16/what-does-trump-budget-eliminate/99223182/


58 posted on 01/28/2023 9:00:58 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Portnoy001

Can you give a number for your massive entitlement payments you claim to be getting??? $400, 700, 1000...just what?? Are you getting massive payments as you claim because you made high salaries in your life?? Or are you admitting you scammed the system??

Social security is a major part of some retirees income. And if that is socialism then I support that 100% as a lot of those older folks probably didn’t have high paying jobs during their lifetimes. They earned it and the politicians should leave it the he** alone.


59 posted on 01/28/2023 9:02:36 AM PST by oldguy1776
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To: Nifster

I was on vacation last week and heard a talker that had this theory. Trump had recently said things that haven’t fit the MAGA bases desires. He played it off to Trump has been spending his days playing golf, mostly with non MAGA types. When he returns to his rallies, this guy expected him to get more back to the MAGA script.


60 posted on 01/28/2023 9:04:10 AM PST by joesbucks
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