Posted on 01/27/2023 6:38:57 AM PST by Chunga85
Until it decided to confront Moscow with an existential military threat in Ukraine, Washington confined the use of American military power to conflicts that Americans could afford to lose, wars with weak opponents in the developing world from Saigon to Baghdad that did not present an existential threat to U.S. forces or American territory. This time—a proxy war with Russia—is different.
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I understand your reasoning but I do not see that our current administration and the rest of NATO are acting with restraint reflecting that.
If that's the case, then MAD doesn't work and we should just surrender now. If Ukraine loses, then Estonia is next. Should we give in then too? Is a NATO border a magic line? If so, why would Putin believe it to be one?
“If you know anything about the history of this area, you know Russia is the bad guy.”
You are lost. The reasons many Americans support the US effort in Ukraine is because they haven’t bothered to look past US propaganda and cannot fathom the idea of the US *ever* being the “bad guy”.
Europeans are going to come to grips with who destroyed Nord I and Nord II.
>Guess which political party controlled
Ronald Reagan won the Cold War and freed Ukraine from the chains of slavery.
Now Russia wants to take it back. They want to take it all back.
They’re failing miserably.
Biden said it’s like the Cuban missile crisis. He’s right but forgot to mention this time the USA is playing the role of the USSR.
Your banging war drums sound familiar. Were you spewing this line of BS about Southeast Asia circa 1965? Watch out for those “dominos.”
Lets actually think about what people are saying. For instance, this article says that the Russians can fire 60,000 artillery rounds, rockets, ect. every day.
Does they guy ask why? Does he realize that this is just old dumb stuff sitting in piles since the 1950-1989. That none of this stuff is actually been manufactured anymore to any extent. That once the Russians exhaust these ancient reserves, they can’t make anything new....of anything. How many people have seen swarms of T-14 Armada tanks and Su-57 fighters....NONE. Maybe a few copies.....and that’s it.
Nope, the photos of the Russians show a different story. T-64 Tanks, BMP-1’s, mosin nagant rifles, and outdated foodstuff from the same year as the artillery rounds....
Both sides are scrounging weapons.......really. The US can make plenty of artillery shells, they just have to commit. We have plenty of bombs, tanks, used aircraft to unleash.
Somebody stop the propaganda and make peace, tired of watching the little people suffer.
Nukes are a game-changer, which is why the Norks covet theirs, Pakistan too. If Zelensky’s Ukraine HAD nukes to launch first, would Putin’s Russia believe they would do so, rather than be overrun? The curious thing will be what happens next when the West, including us, realize out loud that Ukraine cannot win a war of attrition here due to cold hard demographics and logistics of trying to multiple incompatible weapons systems given them, without sufficient time to train and the infrastructure and budget resources to resupply and repair them?Gicen that we all keep saying that we WILL give Ukraine WHATEVER they need to win no matter what. Do we mean this? If not, why are we saying it over and over..?
Biblical prophesy in the book of Revelations guarantees it.
True words
The Ukraine’s biggest mistake was trusting Victoria Nuland and Obama. American politicians don’t even care about Americans , let alone people in a foreign country on the other side of the planet.
“They’re failing miserably.”
Controlling over 40% of THE Ukraine is failing?
Your dumber than most of us thought.
I’m glad you feel so comfortable with communist Russia A country noted for its peaceful intentions
“...over the most corrupt country in Europe run by a tyrant...”
They are pikers compared to American corruptocrats.
You are either delusional or ignorant
Maybe both
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And Russia is trying to buy the billions of dollars of equipment, weapons, etc.. that Shitshow Joe left behind in Afghanistan, from the Taliban.
Here's the reality: there are NO good guys in this. Not Russia. Not Ukraine, not the Biden mis-Administration, not NATO, not the Euroweenies. NO ONE.
When this gets completely out of hand, and it will soon, a whole lot more people are going to die because of Putin, Zelensky and Biden.
I understand the call for urgent weapons and training to Ukraine. And maybe Russia’s strategic nuclear forces aren’t ann better than their ability to supply the forces they are calling up. But I DO think we need to consider carefully the potential consequences of setting something in motion here that we cannot control the direction of. Does “winning” this conflict rise to the level of us risking taking a few Russian nukes on our homeland in an limited or all-out exchange with them? Maybe it does? I’m not there yet.
I agree with the analogy of Biden comparing this to the Cuban missile crisis, though blissfully unaware that we may be playing the role of the old USSR this time. SMH.
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