Posted on 01/24/2023 7:12:18 PM PST by Nextrush
They say like Marmema "It is an outdated issue" - that any promise they made yesterday is an "outdated issue" and they will no longer live up to it.
I said quite a lot, quoting various intelligent, scholarly, and successful people.
All of you and your cronies are on the wrong forum. Supporting Biden is not something we appreciate here, so you revert to some antique worthless piece of paper as your only defense.
Because you know that to admit supporting Biden would bring hell raining down on you.
I see through all if you. Bidenistas.
Just as we haven’t lived up to any of our promises.
This is not exclusive to Russia. How stupid can you be to make such a claim?
Oh the humanities.
A country did not keep a promise.
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Cronos: “What about Russia’s promises to respect Ukraine’s borders as signed by Russia in 1994?”
Marmema “that is unimportant blathering” “that is an outdated issue”
That is Russian thinking, isn’t it? So any promises Russia makes for peace are “unimportant blathering” or “outdated issues” the next day
Breaking signed agreements to respect the borders of neighbors is exclusively Russian.
Don’t try your “whatabouttery” - you Russians broke your signed agreement to respect Ukraine’s border
Hence Russia is not trustworthy to have any peace negotiations with
wow, you are changing the topic from the fact that Russia broke its signed agreement to respect Ukraine’s borders.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/05/20/bush-admits-us-broke-promise-on-nato-expansion/
Bush Admits US Broke Promise on NATO Expansion; Says Ukraine Should ‘Destroy as Many Russian Troops’ as Possible
This world of humanity has truly little to offer as a reason for continuity.
Time to go spend time with loved ones. Life is short and getting shorter.
Not sure but you Poles may be included in Putin’s short list of who to nuke first.
Gorbachev and the documents show ZERO promise not to enlarge
Russia behind the Headlines has published an interview with Gorbachev, who was Soviet president during the discussions and treaty negotiations concerning German reunification. The interviewer asked why Gorbachev did not “insist that the promises made to you [Gorbachev]—particularly U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s promise that NATO would not expand into the East—be legally encoded?” Gorbachev replied: “The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. … Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Baker’s statement was made in that context… Everything that could have been and needed to be done to solidify that political obligation was done. And fulfilled.”
So stop your whatabouttery - you Russians broke your signed agreement in 1994 to respect Ukraine's borders.
Ha ha - typical Russian tactics - when it is pointed out that Russia lies constantly as seen in its breaking of the 1994 Budapest memorandum, then you turn to blustering threats
You are supporting deep-state communists and soviet-inspired KGB fanatics in Russia.
You are supporting the invasion of a sovereign country - Ukraine.
As such, you have ZERO respect for BORDERS !
You want the West to lose against the Islamo-Soviet : the co-belligerent Russia-Belarus-Chechnya-IRAN-North Korea - coalition.
Don’t come to America, stay where you are in Russia.
Your anti-americanism, pro Russian-invasion rhetoric would probably get you arrested. We don’t need your KGB mentality here.
NATO “Expansion” ?? No, It’s NATO that is preventing Russias Expansion!
You got it all mixed up.
The ex-invaded Eastern European countries, Ukraine, had been under Russian occupation and or tyranny for decades... they lived through hell under forced Russian/Soviet communist rule.
When the Soviet/Russian communist system momentarily collapsed, those previously occupied nations suddenly regained their freedom. But at that point they had no army to protect themselves in case Russia decided to occupy them AGAIN...
That’s why all previously occupied European eastern countries by Russia ran to NATO for urgent protection.
Without NATO, those eastern countries would already have been taken back by Russia. Proof : Ukraine wasn’t part of NATO - thus it was invaded by Russia!
The problem with the Soviet-Union or Russia is that since WWII they have always had a policy to colonize and expand into any country close to their borders. It continues today.
NATO is just trying to hinder further post WWII traditional Russian expansion. It’s the whole point of NATO. It’s a defensive organization.
Additionally :
What is often forgotten is that it is the CSTO that is helping Russias expansion policies. CSTO = Collective Security Treaty Organization. That is Russia’s own NATO equivalent. CSTO operates as an offensive organization.
So yes, it’s not only Russia attacking Ukraine right now, but the ENTIRE CSTO organization that is helping making this possible.
CSTO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization
Not me. All the scholars and others I quoted in my post.
If you don’t know that NATO expanded after the USSR was gone, there is no help for you.
Go away. I am tired of your imbecile posts.
Thanks for the info. I will check it out.
You say NATO has expanded. So in that case tell me what country NATO has illegally invaded in Europe?? Which one? There is NONE.
Russia on the other hand IS EXPANDING by INVADING Ukrainian territory by FORCE ! It has also invaded -by force- parts of Georgia !
And also invaded -by force- areas in Moldavia !
No wonder all free nations in Europe run to NATO for protection. They are afraid of Russias violent expansionism!
“Not sure” is hardly a blustering threat.
Hyperbole is your best friend.
It’s a standard Russian ploy.
Russia broke its signed agreement, the 1994 Budapest agreement. It can’t be trusted
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