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PETER HITCHENS: Sending Ukraine our tanks could turn Europe into one big radioactive graveyard
DailyMail.com ^ | 1/21/2023 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 01/21/2023 9:34:21 PM PST by Nextrush

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To: Williams

“Russia has demanded that NATO withdraw from ALL of the former Soviet occupied countries.”

Really? Like East Germany?

Is Ukraine a former Soviet occupied country, or is it an original constituent founding member of the USSR?


21 posted on 01/21/2023 10:35:51 PM PST by CapandBall
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To: Redmen4ever

Reagan said “isn’t it smart to be as strong as the bear?”. Not “go to where it lives and screw around in a menacing manner, occasionally poking it with a stick”.


22 posted on 01/21/2023 10:44:19 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: TheBattman

He’s not the only one. Everyone talking fear of what Russia might or will do is forgetting every angle involved are all at least two way streets. Its not one way Russia wins. Putin is not going to risk Russia’s destruction over Ukraine.


23 posted on 01/21/2023 10:46:35 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Stop ask questions and just shout the slogans!

Putin is Hitler
Russia is North Korea
Ukraine is our border


24 posted on 01/21/2023 10:56:44 PM PST by PGR88
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To: TheBattman

Hitchens has invoked the ghost of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. Those who want appeasement to satisfy Putin, will cause him to throw himself on the floor, pounding his fists and laughing hysterically.


25 posted on 01/21/2023 11:33:59 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Nextrush
I won't waste time here going over the question of who started the Ukraine war attacked Pearl Harbor, or even why.

Actions have consequences, Mr. Hitchens!

And "Karma is a bitch!"

Putin should understand that he was militarily stupid and morally reprehensible to launch a surprise attack against Ukraine, invade a peaceful neighboring country, occupy and annex its territory, kill its citizens, etc.

If he doesn't understand, then he should be made to understand.

Regards,

26 posted on 01/21/2023 11:39:15 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: TheBattman

Kitchens has been an open .racist for decades. Just staying the course.


27 posted on 01/21/2023 11:42:27 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Nextrush
Maybe they will bog down. Maybe they will try to take Crimea. Maybe they will soon be taking part in a Victory Parade on Red Square. I don't know. But if they cross into what Russia regards at its own territory, then do not be surprised by anything which happens...

Has Mr. Hitchens already forgotten that Russia already considers a large percentage of Ukraine to now be "sovereign Russian territory?"

The entire "thrust" of this article by Mr. Hitchens is, "Oh my! Something bad happened! 'Some people did some thing!' But let's not examine who might be at fault! Let's just forget who started it, and who thus bears 100% of the moral blame! But we don't know how it will end - so let's instead do nothing! Twiddling our fingers is so FUN!"

Disgusting!

Regards,

28 posted on 01/21/2023 11:45:25 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Nextrush
The wrong Hitchens died!

If only Christopher were still with us - he'd tear his brother a new *ss-hole!

Regards,

29 posted on 01/21/2023 11:48:22 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: roadcat
We have no business provoking the bear, lest we disturb a hornet nest

Nice "mixed metaphor," there!

Why not add, "...disturb a hornet nest and reap the whirlwind?"

Regards,

30 posted on 01/21/2023 11:53:05 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: roadcat

Don’t poke the Bear. I see this cliché ten time daily here. The Russians are so stupid, barbarous and irritating, that it is almost worth sending a ten megaton nuke, hypersonic missile into Moscow. To see how this all sorts out.

Or better yet, nuke ‘em from orbit.


31 posted on 01/21/2023 11:59:28 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Openly racist? Cite some specifics.


32 posted on 01/22/2023 12:00:07 AM PST by kabar
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To: Williams
We defeated the USSR but that wasn't enough for you war mongering Neocons.   Now we will find out if Klaus Schwab has his way with US.   He will hide in his bunker counting radiation half-lifes, but you will be dead like the rest of us, I hope, or maybe you are just a shill for the Global Elite.

Ask yourself why it's the Left that is all in for this destruction suddenly, when they were against it for fifty years.

33 posted on 01/22/2023 12:01:59 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Redmen4ever
If we knew appeasing Putin by slicing off a part of Ukraine would work, we would consider Peter Hitchens’ option of hoping Putin would be satisfied. [...] As to what are Putin’s goals are. [...] The nations of the caucuses Caucasus and those of central Asia might also be in his sites sights.

Having a little difficulty understanding your thoughts. Is this what you meant to say?

Regards,

34 posted on 01/22/2023 12:03:29 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

I hope this is true....
That the US has notified Rat Bastard Vlad that with the NSA and more, that we always know where Vlad is located and targeted. And that if he sets of nukes in Ukraine and elsewhere. That he will die.

NSA that can intercept all Russian comms. And easily locate areas of high cell phone activity. Probably telling the Ukrainian forces these days, where they find mass Russian Army cell phone activity. Then KABOOM!


35 posted on 01/22/2023 12:06:52 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: kabar

32. Spelchek keeps screwing up my words. It should read as this Hitchens has been a MARXIST for decades.

Read his writings in The Nation, possibly In These Times (originally a pro Soviet publication of the Red infested/funded Institute for Policy Studies - see S. Steven Powell’s masterwork expose’ book on them ), and other far-left publications.

I found his brother Christopher to be a more serious thinker in both his writings and a personal conversation.


36 posted on 01/22/2023 12:38:14 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

The Germans said they would send Leopard 2 tanks, as soon as the US sent M1A2 Abrams. Germany does not want to be ground zero for a soviet strike when the supplier of the tanks are blamed for a lot of dead Russians. Putin is crazy like a Mussolini, Hitler or Stalin. The Russian people are being told that NATO is at war with them, That started when HIMARS and advanced artillery were delivered to Ukraine. What happens when the new tanks are hit by the Russian or Chinese equivalent of a Javelin? oops.. MBT’s require daily maintenance and lot of logistical support. Will Ukraine be able to do that? Just some questions whose answers will not be asked for by the “Free Press of the west”.


37 posted on 01/22/2023 12:39:35 AM PST by Waverunner
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To: dennisw

I’m sure that Vlad has the coordinates for DC, Delaware,NYC,Chicago, Miami, Charlotte, Las Vegas, LA, San Fran.... The Russians also know that if something heads their way, they must use it or lose it when it comes to Nukes. What if the Russians splatter Ukraine with long term persistent chemical weapons? Assassination attempts on heads of states by the CIA were successful only once. They failed on Castro.
And the only successful one was in a democratic country where the people weren’t expecting it. ( I don’t count Allende as his was a “suicide” following a military coup)


38 posted on 01/22/2023 12:47:49 AM PST by Waverunner
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To: Nextrush
Just after the WW2 Tehran Conference, Stalin said to a journalist, (roughly translated):

"It's high time the Slavic race was in charge of Europe."

Putin is channeling Stalin, and desperately wants to succeed where Stalin failed

Never forget that modern-day Russian culture is partly derived from the Mongol hordes who over-ran the region in the 13th century. They never really left.

39 posted on 01/22/2023 1:14:12 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (eleutheromaniac)
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To: Nextrush

Yep. And once the bell is rung, it cannot be un-rung.

Reminds me of the Deepwater Horizon movie - despite the warnings, they ignored what was coming - then, in the immediate aftermath John Malkovich’s character demands “What happened??!!!”

This is a headlong rush into escalation. If it is indeed the beginning of Gog-Magog, it will ultimately lead to the substantial destruction of Iran and probably Russia. It may cost the West substantially as well. It seems that it will continue until NATO is officially in it; it’s all but official at this point already.


40 posted on 01/22/2023 1:14:44 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did wha, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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