Posted on 01/21/2023 9:34:21 PM PST by Nextrush
This was the moment at which we began the unstoppable descent into terrible danger which so many of us will bitterly regret in times to come.
I won't waste time here going over the question of who started the Ukraine war, or even why. Most people don't want to know and refuse to think about it, or look up the facts. They defame and abuse anyone who tries to tell them. So to hell with that. I'm bored with trying.
The Government claims to be in favour of free debate in universities, so all the stage army of "Right-wing" thinkers and scribblers whoop with admiration that we can now perhaps discuss the transgender issue. Well and good.
But the Government and its tame thinkers are not in favour of free debate on crucial national policy...
When the Defence Secretary announced that British tanks were going to Ukraine, not one MP raised any doubts or opposed the move. Not one. To read the record of the non-debate is like reading the proceedings of some Communist fake parliament...
What we have just decided to do is to prolong and deepen the war. Maybe Ukraine's new tanks will sweep all before them. Maybe they will bog down. Maybe they will try to take Crimea. Maybe they will soon be taking part in a Victory Parade on Red Square. I don't know. But if they cross into what Russia regards at its own territory, then do not be surprised by anything which happens...
But why is Britain in this affair? I know that a lot of voters in key states in America hate Russia because their forebearers came from lands Moscow had oppressed. I know that some neo-conservative fanatics in Washington have long desired to dismantle Russia and ensure that is never an important...
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Germany thinks by disarming, it won’t be attacked. Maybe it will be proven right. On the other hand, if Poland has lots of Patriot missiles, what cities will Russia target with its intermediate-range missiles?
With respect to Germany, I would like the Congress to revisit providing defense to countries that don’t meet their NATO obligation. If Germany wants Patriot missiles, the price should be equal to its cumulative deficiency.
Larger parts of Ukraine were part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for far longer than they were part of Russia. How about giving Kaliningrad back to Germany? Does that work? If not, why not?
Here's how it has worked for centuries: i) Russia claims it is threatened; ii) Russia invades and annexes more territory giving it even bigger borders; iii) Russia claims it is threatened at its new borders and goes back to step (i).
Russia has been organized a looting empire for 400+ years. It is simply returning to the mean.
Russia knows very well the war is about Ukraine not Russia’s national existence. Russia won’t use nukes because it has nothing to gain by doing so, even against Ukraine.
No faulty memory. I meant JFK when I said Democrats, as he was in charge. I saved articles from the time. As well as the debacle in the Bay of Pigs, and his mishandling of our pullout from Cuba. And the mess in Vietnam where we propped up dictators with our advisors before Johnson made a bigger mess, which is why we need to generalize on pointing fingers at "Democrats". Kennedy's back problems were well known back in the 1950's, I also read articles back then on it. His family was a mess. His brother Joe was being groomed for the presidency by their ambassador father, by money and connections, except Joe died in WWII and then John was positioned for the presidency. They got in the White House by election fraud, similar to how Biden got in by fraud. The Democrats are bad news, have been for a long time. Russia now is another thing, it's not about communism, it's a civil war (Ukraine means borderland). As much as people cry about helping Ukrainians, we risk nuclear war and should tread carefully.
Uuhm, the Ukraine was part of Russia for over 200 years and acts as the gateway to Moscow. Russia has legitimate concerns over the eastward march in Russia. If I was run img Russia I wouldn’t trust NATO. Not one but.
Pure legalisms. Right now today Putin knows that Russia is actually at war with the US. We're close to ICBMs flying in both directions, IMHO.
Duke, there is no other way to see it. I am amazed that so called Conservatives have pitched their tents in Joe Biden's camp with the Globalist Elites.
I can only think of fools whistling past the graveyard.
Let me know when the Big Red 1 is in Kiev. Oh wait, we aren’t sending anyone there.
MIGs and Russian pilots in Korea and Vietnam were cool. I guess we could “sell” Ukraine some F35s using Russian logic. That would be fun to watch.
In 10 months Russia has lost 25% of what the US lost in WWII. They’ve lost them for marginal land gains, and massive economic damage.
If you “normalize” the losses based on population, it’s closer to 50%.
Tell me how Long Russian can sustain such losses, and then occupy a country the size of Ukraine.
If you honestly believe that is Russia’s plan, you are kidding yourself.
Putin is going to end up with a lot of dead young men, a ruined economy, and—at best—an occupation force that will be constantly attacked from within.
Good luck with your “victory.”
I wager if NATO never inched closer, and closer, to Russia Ukraine would never be in a war.
If BRICS trained Mexicans to attack the US, you can be assured the US would start with a SMO against the Mexicans
It’s dangerous but allowing this to continue for years with the inevitable risk of some catastrophic miscalculation is perhaps more dangerous.
If this weren't such a grave development your comment would be laughable. The Whole point of President Putin's Special Military Operation was to keep the Ukraine out of the EU and NATO, yet you think a total occupation of Ukraine would make Russia turn tail and run.
If I was President Putin I would immediately nuke 20 major United States Cities using their undetectable and unstoppable hypersonic cruise missiles to run interference as needed. But that's just me and President Putin is never going to do that. /s
On Youtube, watch DW the german english language news much like NPR in flavor, and any of the english language news out of India. This gives a better feel for what is being said in Europe and Russia. Our news, all channels, just is so one sided, it isn’t funny. The international outlets let things slip that never get reported over here, like that the germans agreed to the leopards as long as we deliver abrams. Why won’t we send Abrams should be the question for Lloyd Austin?
Read my post again, NATO didn’t “inch” anywhere, and Canada, Mexico, and the United States relations are no threat to the world and have nothing to do with the place of World Wars and nuclear weapons, and Gulags and the murder of 10 of millions of people and the place of Concentration camps and horrors on scales that don’t even seem real.
There is a reason those European countries live in fear of Russia and keep seeking out NATO and begging to be allowed to join.
You're refracting everything through the lens of your domestic political opponents, so if a foreign enemy is opposing them abroad you support the enemy hoping for domestic political gains. No different than what Hanoi Jane and the Dems did during the Vietnam War.
WE are supporting the Ukraine. The Ukraine, with our support, begins to get the upper hand in their border fracas. Russia wants to stop our proxy war support that threatens their national existence. Russia nukes US.
Are you that dense that you can't put two and two together?
The use of “The” Ukraine tips your hand. Folks in Ukraine don’t call it that. They haven’t since the Russians left 30 years ago. It’s considered a Russian slur.
This assertion is simply false. Russia lived with an independent Ukraine for 21 years before it started wars of territorial aggression. The only thing threatened by an independent Ukraine are inflated Russian egos.
That was the USSR that did that. That ended 30 years ago. We send the CIA and unlimited cash and weapons places now to overthrow governments.
try to keep up sport.
We never stopped doing that.
And in regards to Russian…Potato, patahto. They all deserve to burn in hell.
The Democrats controlled both the House and Senate the whole length of time that the Viet Nam Conflict existed.
In a word, Demonicrats.
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