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Trump Dismisses COVID-19 Vax Safety Claims, Says He Saved 100 Million Lives
Newsweek ^ | 16 Jan 2023 | AILA SLISCO

Posted on 01/16/2023 10:51:44 PM PST by blueplum

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To: blueplum

Trump is still living in 2020, and doing his best to re-write history too.

To continue to try to claim these clot shots were safe and effective, in the face of all the growing evidence, is growing more absurd by the day. Naomi Wolf was on the same channel just recently citing recently unveiled Pfizer statistics showing that 80% of the babies that were conceived during the trail period, all died. That type of negative information will only continue to grow, as the virus is now basically over, but vaccine injuries and interest in them are still ramping up.

He even tries to claim in this interview he had nothing to do with any of the shutdowns, and tried to blame governors, when he was the one who announced guidelines for the nationwide lockdowns for every American. “Two weeks to flatten the curve” didn’t come from the states, and everyone knows it.

Sad to say, but Trump has somewhat lost his mind, I’m afraid.


181 posted on 01/17/2023 10:28:00 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: EBH

You are so full of crap. One is not supposed to believe every thought that happens to careen through one’s mind.

You ever read the Old Testament? Moses was a pretty decent germaphobe in his day. Wash, wash, wash, and don’t touch nothing.

“Remember he talked about HCQ and Ivermectin, he was able to be embarrassed(?) by the experts and media.”

He signed Executive Orders that ordered both to be made available to every American, along with monoclonal antibodies. That is how much he was embarrassed by the media.

But Trump embarrassed by the media? Pull your head out of your ass.


182 posted on 01/17/2023 10:30:23 AM PST by odawg
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To: 9YearLurker

He is, unfortunately, too arrogant to admit his mistake. Granted the deep state was pushing him to give prosecution immunity to Big Pharma, but he was the one that made it happen. The responsibility is his. I suggest he own up to it if he wants a second term.


183 posted on 01/17/2023 10:38:09 AM PST by Machavelli (True God)
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To: Fresh Wind

You put either Newsom or Michelle Obama and Desantis in a race and throw in a 3rd party Trump guess who wins? Newsom or Michelle Obama...Cause you know who the Blacks will vote for in mass. This is provided Plugs Biden and his dog Commie gets ousted...


184 posted on 01/17/2023 10:38:22 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: faucetman
He IS in a tough spot though. Having promoted and somewhat responsible (at the very least taking credit for it) for the warp speed vaxxine, it is hard now to be against it with voluminous amounts of audio/video of him promoting it.

DeSantis had no problem doing a 180, once the facts started coming out.

He went on TV, and said quote "We were lied to about these vaccines."

Then, he empaneled a grant jury at the Florida Supreme Court level, to investigate those lies, and whether they may have been criminal. I say good luck to them, based on how this is playing out so far.

Trump should at least be pumping his brakes on the issue, not doubling down. Even the pharmaceutical companies themselves have been making recent admissions that they knew all along the vaxxes didn't stop transmission, which was their main selling point. And since they weren't allowed to sequester those test results for 60 years, like they wanted, the floodgates are starting to open.

185 posted on 01/17/2023 10:39:15 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: Hostage
Trump will come around when the evidence is court-worthy, when it’s “admissible”.

Won't it be ironic, if Trump is forced to change his position on the clot shots, due to the evidence compiled and released as part of grand jury put together by DeSantis.

For that reason alone, I don't expect Trump to ever change his position on this, not to mention the large checks he has cashed from Pfizer and the like.

186 posted on 01/17/2023 10:57:02 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: EVO X

I know almost nothing about federal pandemic planning so I can’t comment one way or the other.


187 posted on 01/17/2023 11:26:24 AM PST by Reily
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To: blueplum

“never-vaxers admit their errors?”

Doing something foolish, surviving it, then chiding others because they exercised restraint is truly profound.

You must be a real smart feller.


188 posted on 01/17/2023 11:55:33 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: gas_dr; blueplum

Foolish Trump. He’s probably listening to people who have been developing cancer drugs and other meds for the last 30 years using mRNA.

Doesn’t he know that the real experts are freepers who never heard of mRNA in their lives until Covid and still don’t know that their bodies produce mRNA every time that they build a protein? What’s wrong with him. He oughta be getting his knowledge from the UK auto mechanic running The Expose.


189 posted on 01/17/2023 11:58:50 AM PST by Pelham (#NeverKevin)
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To: mewzilla
"Nuff said."
Not quite. Did I know about the existence of and the threat posed by the cabal that is Deep State in 2019? No, but I do now and I know that the so-called vaccines killed people like my brother. Why doesn't Trump?
190 posted on 01/17/2023 12:00:28 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: KobraKai

Only two of the six Covid vaccines created by Warp Speed use mRNA. So are you okay with the four that aren’t mRNA?


191 posted on 01/17/2023 12:08:01 PM PST by Pelham (#NeverKevin)
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To: EVO X

” My take on the vax, is they may have been briefly effective against the first few versions of the virus.”

All of the vaccines were designed on the original spike protein. The original virus and variants having the original spike ceased to circulate after the vaccines were released. That’s what you’d expect from vaccines that work as intended.

Omicron has a spike that is different from the original virus. Antibodies generated by the first generation vaccines don’t recognize it. The bivalent shots out now are supposed to include the Omicron spike. The original virus was more lower respiratory which made it dangerous, Omicron and Delta are more upper respiratory and so milder.

https://respiratory-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12931-022-02222-3


192 posted on 01/17/2023 12:28:56 PM PST by Pelham (#NeverKevin)
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To: minnesota_bound

He has blinders on

 

Someone does.

193 posted on 01/17/2023 12:33:34 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Pelham; KobraKai
Four "COVID vaccines" are available in the USA. Two (pFizer and Moderna) are mRNA based. One (J&J) is DNA based. All three of these hijack the injectee's body to produce spike proteins which might have something to do with some version of the Wuhan China Virus.

Novavax contains spike proteins which might have something to do with some version of the Wuhan China Virus, however they are produced outside the injectee's body.

194 posted on 01/17/2023 12:41:11 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Pelham

My brain understanding was there is 4, can you list the other 2?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/overview-COVID-19-vaccines.html


195 posted on 01/17/2023 12:45:10 PM PST by M_Continuum
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To: Reily
I know almost nothing about federal pandemic planning so I can’t comment one way or the other.

I don't either, but after 3 years their decrees and suggestions appear to be wrong.

196 posted on 01/17/2023 12:46:32 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: odawg; blueplum; 9YearLurker; All
> "Maybe you should read the article and not the headline"

EXACTLY CORRECT.

The liar media have an agenda. They know beforehand what they're going to write. Catching up with Trump and asking a question is done just so they can say they interviewed him.

Whatever Trump says, the liar media is going to twist to their own ends.

For example, the title of the thread is:
Trump Dismisses COVID-19 Vax Safety Claims, Says He Saved 100 Million Lives

Note the words "Trump", "Dismisses", "Claims"

Look closely at what AILA SLISCO does:

Rather than immediately write Trump’s answer, AILA SLISCO inserts out of sequence sentences about Trump touting how fast the vaccine was rolled out, how safe etc. AILA SLISCO is making Trump look like he's avoiding the question; he is "dismissing" it. However, Trump answers it very well in her subsequent paragraphs.

AILA SLISCO's planned hit is carried out according to her Newsweek editors. AILA SLISCO wants the readers to scan over and retain the following impressions:

And so on.

After emphasizing statements inserted out of sequence, the agenda of branding Trump as a con artist, AILA SLISCO finally posts Trump’s answer to Brody's question:

Importantly, Trump is referring to what others have told him.

There is no President in history that had the training and experience to argue with Pharma scientists about their tools, procedures, and developments. In an emergency Pandemic, there is no choice but to go with what top experts are recommending, because the alternative is to do nothing, then be blamed for millions of deaths.

DeSantis trolls will hit Trump as incompetent, but DeSantis was until November extolling how these vaccines saved lives.

So who are these experts advising that these vaxxes were safe and saving millions? Are certain batches good? Are others harmful?

FOG OF WAR

There are real perpetrators out there that are hidden.

Who is AILA SLISCO? She's a liberal newbie to Newsweek.

Note: Biden is not asked these questions nor characterized as dismissing claims.

Here's how Biden is treated by Newsweek:

Now look again what AILA SLISCO wrote Trump saying "some problems with the vaccine"..

Q. Why is Trump not "acknowledging" the harmful effects of Covid injections?

A. False question, he did acknowledge there were problems.

Q. Yes but, he's not angry and hurt like he should be.

A. He will come around when the evidence is admissible in court. Right now, it's premature.

Unlike you and me calling for heads to roll for the vaccine deaths, Trump has to wait because the 4th estate will crucify him if he doesn't have backup.

However, Trump can show he's aware that people are dying suddenly. He can say, as he said in the source here, that there are problems but the numbers are small. That's a true statement, but it will change as the numbers get worse.

In the next weeks and months, we can expect Trump to weigh in on the bad batch business. He can say we need to get to the bottom of who made those bad batches of vaccines.

197 posted on 01/17/2023 1:03:44 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: GMThrust

“This is the start of the left blaming Trump for the unsafe injection.”

They’ve done it before. Before freepers decided that they are jab experts and started echoing old Biden and Kamala lines.

This was a Trump campaign press release from October 22, 2020:

Biden continues to peddle anti-vax conspiracy theories and undermine the public’s confidence in the coming coronavirus vaccine.

Despite overwhelming testimony from top public health officials that the coronavirus vaccine will be safe and effective, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are spreading fear, fueling anti-vax conspiracy theories, and actively trying to undermine the public’s confidence in a vaccine.

July 28, 2020: Joe Biden suggests the coronavirus vaccine won’t be “real” and may not be “safe.”

August 6, 2020: Biden says the vaccine is “not likely to go through all the tests that needs to be and the trials that are needed to be done.”

September 3, 2020: Biden asks “Who’s going to take the shot? Are you going to be the first one to say sign me up?”

September 6, 2020: Kamala Harris says “I think that’s going to be an issue” when asked if she would get an approved coronavirus vaccine.

September 7, 2020: Biden said he would take the coronavirus vaccine “only if we knew all of what went into it.

When CNN asked Kamala Harris if she would take the vaccine once it’s approved, she refused to answer: “Well, I think that’s going to be an issue for all of us. I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump.”

Comments like these, directly contradicting public health officials, have endangered Americans’ public health by severely undermining the public’s confidence in the coronavirus vaccine.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-release-fact-joe-bidens-anti-vaccine-rhetoric-anti-science-and-dangerous


198 posted on 01/17/2023 1:11:09 PM PST by Pelham (#NeverKevin)
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To: Pelham

I took a couple jabs during the spring of 2021. I had no side effects other than a sore arm to the touch at the injection site. It is a failed technology in my opinion.


199 posted on 01/17/2023 1:19:42 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: enumerated
As for Operation Warp Speed, he did exactly what a President should do when top scientists are warning of a deadly pandemic: do what he can to cut red tape and find a vaccine as soon as possible. Any POTUS would be crazy not to do the same.

 

Well, that's all true, but with one exception:  could anyone else have driven the schedule as Trump did?  It's not just the vaccines.  He got the USNS Comfort to New York on April 2, weeks before anyone thought it could be done.  It's not Trump's fault that Cuomo was too proud to use it.  He was constantly undermined by Fauci and Birx and the rest of the NIH and CDC establishment, as they furiously spun to hide their invovlment in creating the Chinese Coronavirus at the Wuhan Institute of Virology with the CCP.  Oh, and he got the vaccines approved.

A small numbrer of Vax Covidians not withstanding, he was the right man at the right time.  He has nothing to apologize for, and is rightly proud of his achievements.

How will this affect the primaries?  Who knows, but at present, this is not an issue that moves large numbers of votes away from Trump.  That can always change, but it remains a fringe issue.

200 posted on 01/17/2023 1:20:30 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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